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E L E C T R I C D R E A M S

Volume 4 Issue #8

21 August 1997

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C O N T E N T S

++ Editor's Notes

++ From the Webmaster

Display your Dreams and Articles Better on Electric Dreams!

Matthew Parry

++ Join the Next Dream Group Online!

DreamWheel 22 Begins October 1

Linley Joy (Dream Group Moderator)

++ DreamGroups via Email 1997- 1998: The baton is passed

Richard Wilkerson

++ Dream Airing Column - Victoria Quinton

Dream songs, research requests, Dream Chat online

And much more. Want an interview?

++ Dream Trek : The Spooky Future

Linda Lane Magallon

++ Flower Dreams - Connie Barrett

++ Should We Control Our Dreams? Fred C. Olsen

++ Developing Lucid Dreaming in the Netherlands: A Personal Account

Carolus M. den Blanken

++ Column: Life, Art, Dream: End Summary.

Alissa Goldring

++ Cyberdream - History Notes

Richard Wilkerson

++ Madame Aionia's Astrological Dreaming Series:

Dreaming Through the Houses: 8^th House

++ Meditation on One Eighth House Facet: Sex and Sexuality

Island

G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S - Peggy Coats

This Month's Features:

NEWS

- A Dream Treck to Support the Dream Network

-Intuitive Watercolor Painting

- Alchemical Dreamwork

- "Night Passages of the Soul: Exploring our Dreams"

- Greece Dream & Myth Tour -- July 1998

- Mutual Dreaming Author Radio Interview

RESEARCH & REQUESTS

- Searching for Dreams of Future Worlds

- Psychic Dream Survey

- Mysterious Words

- Wanted: Inner Child Dreams

- Search for Dreams

- Dreams Needed for Book

- Dreams of the Dead

WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES

- Dr. Strange's Dream and Paranormal Forum

- Dream Bibliographies Online - Update

- Medieval Dream Resources

- Sex, Symbols & Dreams

- Sleep and Dreams Research Web Site

- Nocturnal Postings

- Dream Helpers

- Richard Wilkerson New ASD WebMaster

LATE BREAKING NEWS

-James Hillman and Dream Animals Local Bay Area Lecture

- History of Dreaming - Online Class Sept 1.

- Dream Show Changes On AOL

DREAM CALENDAR

!!!!!! D R E A M S E C T I O N !!!!!!!

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Editors' Notes

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Welcome to Electric Dreams vol 4 no. 8! We have a great issue for you this month, but before I talk about that I wanted to introduce two new staff members.

Patrick, (Robert Patrick Murtha) will be involved in the media management of Electric Dreams, which means everything from how our sites and ezine are displayed online to how we relate to the world outside of dreaming via magazines, TV, radio and other media connections and events. Also, having a double major in psych and parapsychology, we will probably be hearing more from Patrick on these matters as well. (See ED Access for more info).

Linley Joy will be moderating the dream groups. Please see the article below on the DreamWheel Dream groups for more information regarding the groups. Linley may also be doing a book review for us once in awhile, which will draw on her many skill in writing.

How do people become part of the Electric Dreams Staff? Well, since we are a free publication, basically it only requires that you have a desire to join us and send me a note saying so. If you have a specific area you want to work with, fine, or if you would like to look at our task list, I can send that to you. Be a pioneer, join today! rcwilk@aol.com

Do you have dreams of events that really happen? It seems that many of us do, but what do we do about them? An experienced psychic dreamer, Linda Magallon, tells us the dues that necessary to move from a raving hysteric Cassandra to sensitive, community connected seer like Tiresias. Read the Dream Trek Column for more.

For nearly 30 years, Connie Barrett has been recording her dreams and in the last decade has been researching the effects

of Herbal Remedies. While we at here at Electric Dreams haven't followed these studies up and cannot recommend the treatments one way or the other, the work is a great jumping off point for those interested in the effects of various substances on dreams, dreaming and dreamer. See her article "Flower Dreams".

How much control should we exercise over our dreams? Does lucid dreaming enlarge the ego and drive the much needed unconscious connection even further away than before? Fred Olsen, who has been developing his own reentry techniques for several decades takes a look at this issue and wonders if maybe we have been asking the wrong question. Perhaps we should be asking less questions about whether to control or not, and more about the who that wants to find this question in the first place. The investigation of this path may unravel all you have previously learned and turn the currently held notions of cultural advance on its head.

Carolus M. den Blanken is generously sharing a variety of dream resources with us over the next few months. This month you can check out his Lucid Dream Bibliography, (See GD News) and his paper that is part of a project of bringing lucidity to the Netherlands. ( See article)

Alissa Goldring, who has been providing us with her continually dream inspired art articles, has completed her column with us and this gives us a chance to see her full site and get a summary of the wisdom of Life, Art and Dream. Many thanks to Alissa for her contributions this year.

Dreams form a valuable group of objects in our culture in that, among other things, resist commodification. They are free, and its hard to sell them, or even get attention for them. It is no wonder the capital cultures attempt to teach us through mother's voice that "it's just a dream". We are taught to be bored and disinterested in other's dreams and see them as narcissistic indulgences and random neural foam. Now you already know this, or your wouldn't be reading this e-zine, but what about those who have followed this voice and forgotten their dreams? I have been doing a little more outreach this year to other mail lists and areas of cyberspace that might still have an open ear to dreams and dreaming. In Cyber-dream History Notes I've included a short history I published on CyberMind and am re-publishing here so that you can use this as a template to begin dialogue on your own mail lists and discussion groups. Drop me a line and tell me how it goes. I look forward to the day in our culture when instead of saying it was just a dream, parents say something like Kilton Stewart suggested to tell children "When you are awake you have to obey me, but in you dreams, we will obey you...."

Madame Aionia an Island continue to explore the use looking at dreams as if they were from various Astrological Houses. This month, they look at Sex, Death, Inheritances and other Eighth House concerns.

Peggy Coats & DreamTree brings us all up to date in the latest Global Dreaming News. This is not only a *news service * but the place where we can watch the dream culture evolve online and find our unique interests and pursue our specific desires and individuality through dreams and dream inspired projects. Whether you are interested a wild romp to Dreaming in Greece, or a more personal adventure at Twin Lakes in Alchemy, the GD news offers you a program. Can't make it to any of these events? Well, try my History of Dream Sharing Class, which begins the 1^stof every new month.

There are just *tons* of new sites and cyber-dream projects this month and I hope you get a chance to look through the news and visit these new sites.

The GD news is also a chance to help out researchers. If you have Dreams of Future Worlds, psychic dreams, mysterious words in your dreams, dreams of the dead, or just have some dreams you are willing to share in general, these researchers could use our help. Let's search through our journals and send them the material they need to provide interesting new insights for us all.

If you have material for the News, send that to Peggy at

pcoats@dreamtree.com

Here are some Higlights from the Dream and Comment section from our Dream Editor, Bob Krumahansal:

Computer Dreams galore - from hardware to software, from e-mail to the Internet, even Bill Gates makes an appearance as computer related images are incorporated into our dreams. A recipe is applied to an Oven dream by B.A.Baker ;), a Shark attack is undergone and examined, journeys, escapes, crashes, repetitive dreams and a precognitive Jerry Garcia dream are among the many others shared this issue. Enjoy this episode of our continuing explorations into Dreamland. BobK

OK, Keep sending those dreams in! When you do, I put them on the ed-core@igc.apc.org mail list and those who are interested will comments. Then Bob Krumhansl puts this all together once a month.

You can send dreams to Bob or me, or you can join the mail list and send dreams and comments in yourself. How?

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Then your can send dreams directly into the list. Please include a title and pen-name and send to ed-core@igc.apc.org

Any dream that comes in will get distributed to everyone else on the list and you are welcome to comment on the dream as you wish.

To those of you who would like to see your articles on ED be displayed better, we are working on it! In the meantime, our Web Master, Matthew Parry, is offering us some ways to put the site up and have it connected to the ezine. See his instructions below.

OK, enjoy the issue and have a dream filled September.

- Richard Wilkerson

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Display your Dreams and Articles Better on Electric Dreams!

Webmaster - Matthew Parry

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Do you want everyone to see a prettier version of your Dreams,

Articles etc? Well I've now worked out how to get the HTML version of ED to look much nicer. All you need to do is write your article on some user friendly HTML editor and put it on

your web site somewhere. Then from your web browser save

the file as ascii text, add the following line to it:

and send it off to Richard or Bob or whoever it is you

would normally send it to for inclusion in ED - But please

DO NOT send them HTML files, just ascii text versions of it.

The HTML version will then make a link to your pretty page

instead of the ugly text ones.

N.B. The ED archives at the website will still have a link

to your page after the next version of ED comes out, so

don't erase it. In the near future there will be a way for

you to change the links at the ED web site if you move or

rearrange your website.

Matthew Parry - Webmaster <mettw@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au>

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Join the Next Dream Group Online!

DreamWheel 22 Begins September 1

Linley Joy (Dream Group Moderator)

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Join today to participate in a relaxed exploration of dreams via email!

If you are new to Electric Dreams, or the dream community online and would like to see a sample of a Dreamwheel in action, go to

www.dreamgate.com/asd-13/2lb12.htm and take a look or read the article on email dreamgroups by Chris Hicks at www.dreamgate.com/dream/library

If you would like to participate, send a request to Linley Joy at

maidai@webplus.co.uk and say something like;

"Hi, please put me on the list for the next Dream Wheel Dream Group and send me instructions!"

The Electric Dreams Dream Wheel Dream Groups now have an automated mail list that makes joining and participating easy! By simply sending an email message to our automated system you are put on the list for the Dream Wheel. Once this is done all you need do is check your mail for Dream Wheel related messages!

And, when you are ready to directly participate by sending in questions for the dreamer or comments all you do is send them to a single email address. Any messages sent to this address are automatically *re-mailed* to everyone that has joined the Dream Wheel! Simple!

If you have any questions on how the Dream Wheel Dream Group operates or how to participate, please feel free to email either Linley Joy at maidai@webplus.co.uk or Richard Wilkerson at <rcwilk@aol.com>

Dream exploration is a fascinating process, almost always enriching, often surprising, but above all, fun. As the Dream Moderator for Dream Wheel #22, I look forward to you joining in.

Contact:

Linley Joy (Dream Group Moderator)

maidai@webplus.co.uk

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Electric Dreams/ DreamGate DreamWheels

DreamGroups via Email 1997- 1998

The baton is passed from

Chris Hicks to Linley Joy

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For over a year, Chris Hicks has been moderating and watching over the email dream groups sponsored by Electric Dreams and DreamGate. As a co-editor I have been privileged to watch the care he has given the groups and the courtesy extended to all the participants. Chris is a pioneer in cyberspace and online dreamwork. I wanted to give my personal & special thanks, and I'm sure I speak for the rest of the community as well.

Cyber-dreaming 1997-1998

The last year of ED dreamwheels have provided a great introduction to dreamwork for many people around the world. I especially liked the notes we got back from those who were homebound and in areas where dream work offline is not available.

The general idea of a dreamgroup is still a little odd for the general public and dreamwork online even odder.

What I mean is that it is not enough to tell people that one has a dreamgroup online for the person to *get* it. It just doesn't quite make sense what's going on until it is happening. I have found that many interested people need to be lead step by step not only through the group process itself, but the whole joining and sign-up process.

Electric Dreams has a new moderator, Linley Joy, and she will be developing an awareness of the whole process as well as running the groups themselves. I see this as an opportunity to explore the whole issue of initiation, which is terribly lacking in our society.

If you have ideas about how to get the word out on the groups, or ideas about the group itself, or if you are interested in co-moderating a group, please send those notes to Linley,

maidai@webplus.co.uk

Richard Wilkerson

rcwilk@aol.com

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Hello everyone

Winter is coming to an end here in Australia.

I have been busy being a mother most of this year.

To see my progeny, have a look at:

http://www.alphalink.com.au/~mermaid

Anyone who would like to be an interviewee is welcome to

send me some email mermaid@alphalink.com.au

Have happy and enlightening dreams everybody..

Do you have questions, answers, comments, replies? This is your column to communicate with the rest of the Electric Dream Community, so just send those email in.

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Dream Chat Online DREAMS@intuition.org

Just a note about the dream discussion and experimentation list at www.intuition.org

There have been some very interesting experiments lately on mutual dreaming.If you are interested in joining, you can sign up at the www.intuition.org web site. If you are not familiar with mutual dreaming, you may want to check out Linda Lane Magallon's new book Mutual Dreaming at

http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/fbnc/fbnc01.htm

=============== More songs for Dick Mcleester

The "Dream Police" by Cheap Trick.
Outt.. Jeff.

"Dreams" by Van Halen. excellent song- Aaron Matthe

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I have been working with a team of high school students as they competedfor scholarships in the ThinkQuest competition.The ThinkQuest competitiongives scholarships to students for the best educational websites that thestudents can create.I have been a "coach" for my group for several

months.

They have just finished their site and part of their score depends on howmany "hits" they get to their site.The site is about the History andPsychology of Dreams and they would appreciate it very much if you would visit the siteand participate in some of the chats and journals.

ThinkQuest is also a great source of teaching material for any of you outthere who are teachers.

My team's site:http://library.advanced.org/11189/

ThinkQuest site: http://www.advanced.org/thinkquest

Make this your good deed for the day-visit our site!

HSD

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A quick interview with the Dream Team.

++ How did you all meet and decide to do a site on dreams and dreaming?

It was a topic that we all found equally interesting. Another factor was that it was different then the 'norm' of educational websites.

++ The programming on the site is very advanced, where did you learn CGI and Java?

Chad has always been an advanced person in programming. It's something that has interested him since the Tandy Color Computer, in which you could program in basic. Even in High School he takes a few credit courses at the local college, while going to high school full time.

++ Did you have any dreams during the project or about the project?

Not that I can recall. I actually found it difficult to sleep, since coming down the line we spent little time sleeping. Either worrying about the project or actually working on the project.

++ What are your own favorite dreams?

In general, lucid dreams. Because of the fact that you know what you are doing when you have them, which would definitely make them the most interesting.

++ What dream books did you like the best?

A dream book that I found the most interesting, although the most fake,which is why we didn't use it on the site was ZOLAR's book of interpretations. This book made you look at how dreams in no way could be interpreted by a person and must be interpreted by yourself.

++ Do any of you plan a career in psychology?

Chad is planning a career in Computer Technology, Brandan in

Business/Advertising, and Jadey in an arts field.

++ Is the site going to continue and grow after the contest?

Of course!!

Thanks for the great review on the site. We greatly appreciated it.

site:http://library.advanced.org/11189/

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As I am not able to reach the ASD Bulletin Board I hope I may send this to you (and you may send it further).

Some weeks ago a lady (?) reported to be interested in anorexia nervosa and bulemia. I told her that I had read about dream research in relation to the topic, but had forgotten the name. I found it back. Mr. Douglas Frayn 'The incidence and significance of perceptual qualities in the reported dreams of patients with anorexia nervosa'. Can. J. PsychiatryVol. 36 sept, 1991 p. 517-520. (another part was send to me. Probably not published. The incidence and significance of sensory percepts and dream recall in normal and psychopathological states)

He found that the dream content of successful treated patients differed from unsuccessful patients. To me it is not clear where in treatment the differences arose. Was it before weight-gain, after weight gain, or no clear (temporal) pattern. If she wants to do research she may find out whether she finds the same (differences between successful and unsuccessful treated patients) and when the content arises in relation to weight-gain (and absence of weightgain). Is it possible to see from the content whether treatment will be successful, as Kasatkin in the second world war could see from the dreams of his war-victims who would survive and who would not. May be even a step further is, to change therapy when dreams indicate that it is not(will not be)

successful.

May be you also like to know about Frayn's research. (there is a49 item literature list in the second -not published - article, and 15 in the published one).

a.christiaensen@pobox.ruu.nl

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DREAM TREK

By Linda Lane Magallon

The Spooky Future

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Recently, Simon shared several of his nuclear nightmares and precognitive disaster dreams with _Electric Dreams_. "These dreams have always worried me," he said. "I have had other dreams that seem to predict some future events as well as dreams that seem to be a glimpse of alternate timelines. The Challenger dream and the plane crash dreams have always really affected me because I didn't do anything."

As Simon is aware, the future is not fixed. A dream *may* predict the future; but then again, it may be a window into an alternate future or be a practice run at a future that will never be congealed enough to manifest here in waking reality. The dream event may stay forever in the realm of "potential, but not physical."

That especially applies to nuclear nightmares. I believe that, as a human race, we have chosen not to actualize that particular probability in which we blow ourselves to nuclear smithereens. We are capable of learning the lessons inherent in such an event through alternate manifestations on movies, TV and through semi-accidents like Chernobyl and Five Mile Island, without exploding the whole enchilada. Of course, I can't *prove* my contention, any more than the earth change doomsayers can *prove* that California is going swimming with the fishes.

I choose to live as though such a prediction is not inevitable. As I do, I believe I am helping to actualize the positive alternative. Acting as if the most positive future will manifest is one way to "do something" about negative possibilities. It's the physical equivalent of verbal affirmations and visualizations, and all the more powerful because it's not just a mind event, it's mind and body cooperation.

However, some negative dreams do "come true" Let's say Simon was convinced this was going to be the case for one of the dreams which disturbed him. None of his examples would have affected him personally (like a nuclear war surely would). They were all other people's personal events. To change their outcome he would have had to reach out beyond himself. Perhaps he could have told a participant or someone in charge.

But even if he did alert the authorities, would they have listened? It's been my observation that in this skeptical society there are few "authorities" who pay serious attention to psychic advice in the course of their official working life. Those that do, listen to an individual with an established reputation for detailed, accurate information and with whom they have developed a first hand relationship built on trust and respect for proven ability. If Simon believes he has a calling to be a psychic detective, he should be prepared to pay his dues. He has to establish a track record with respected members of the community who are willing to take the time to verify his accomplishments.

Then, he faces an even tougher challenge: to demonstrate the practicality of psychic information to, say, members of the police force. Such people desire psychic services for a specific task: like locating missing children or murder suspects. As such, Simon will need to become a proactive dreamer: a dreamer on demand. Sorry, but spontaneous information just won't do.

Many people dreamt of the Challenger shuttle disaster and the Loma Prieta earthquake before they occurred. I did. But without a specific date, time, location, or other details, the usefulness of my information was limited. Obviously, the dreams were too vague to serve as a practical global warning, even if I had had the inclination to act on them. So why do we have such dreams?

I believe we are all psychic. We all have the ability to tune into the psychic dream channel. Most dreams we don't. We're too wrapped up in our own drama to become aware of any "outside" information, unless it yells at us. The psychic information that gets through our disinclination to see beyond our own noses is that which has the loudest "noise." It's the information with the greatest emotional wallop. It could be a strong positive emotion. But in this culture, it's most likely to be an intense negative one.

So when an upcoming negative event echoes backward in time, anyone with the least psychic sensitivity is going to notice it. Notice it, heck, we're going to feel it. Live it, from the inside out, because that's how dreams work. Living our own private nightmares are disturbing enough. Living a global nightmare is a real pain in the head, heart and gut.

We are not meant to be personally responsible to a "bleed through" on our psychic dream TV from the global disaster channel anymore than we are personally responsible for everything that we see on physical TV. It's just news. It's the participants in the event who have the prime responsibility for their actions, not the audience.

Of course, if we get a personal news broadcast, like a dream of our car sliding off the road, well, before we begin dreamwork on our symbols, we'd best check out the condition of our automobile tires and brakes. Responsibility begins at home.

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Flower Dreams

Connie Barrett

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I've been recording and studying my dreams since 1970. I noticed a significant change in their quality when I began taking Bach Flower Remedies in 1989.

Bach Flower Remedies, discovered and developed in the early 1900s by Edward Bach, MD, work to dissolve emotional blockages by flooding the being with the opposite qualities characterized by the individual flower. For example, people who feel little interest in physical or day-to-day reality, preferring to exist in the world of imagination, would take Clematis. The result is usually a deepened connection between the worlds of physical and imaginative existence, which allows them to manifest their creative imagination in physical form.

It's my experience that much of the healing generated by Bach Flower Remedies takes place in dreams as indicated in the following examples.

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I'm at a Center for the Wounded Child Within. I'm a weekly volunteer there. I file cards, but I realize I want to do something more challenging. Then I feel guilty. I think, "Well, everyone wants to do something more challenging. Who's going to file cards?"

Everyone is on some kind of team. I keep on finding myself getting up, and let other people know how I feel. Everyone else feels the same way about their wounded children. I say I need therapy. There's some therapy at the center, but you have to put in a lot of hours to get it. I don't know if it's worth it (or is it that I don't know if I'm worth it?)

I was taking the Remedy Larch, for self-esteem and self-confidence. People in need of Larch, although their capabilities are equal to those of others, are convinced that they're incapable of success, and particularly resist doing anything new. In the dream I defeat my desire to do something more challenging by saying that someone has to do the routine work. The metaphor of a wounded child tells me that my self-image is my problem, but when it comes to exploring this via therapy I wonder whether I'm worth it.

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My partner is very ill and has been for some time. Her doctor has just done surgery. He takes me inside and says that she has cancer all he did was open and close her. He knew her cancer was incurable from the first time she went to see him.

This shocks me because she went right away. He tells me he hasn't told her. I'm sure she knows, and I feel I have to tell her. I call my store and ask someone to arrange to fill my time for a few weeks so I can be with my partner. I take a serious look at how my life is going to be. I want to take care of her, and at the same time prepare myself for running the business alone. I also need to take time out for recreation.

I was taking the Oak Remedy, for people who take on difficult to impossible tasks out of a sense of duty, continuing long after most people would give up. Taking on the responsibility of caring for a terminally ill person is just what an Oak person would do and they would add it to their other commitments. In the dream I both release my commitment to my store and realize that I will need to take time for play. These decisions represent positive effects of the Oak Remedy.

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I'm in an office building with my mother and father. My father begins to viciously insult my mother and starts to hit her. She begins to cry. I become furious and scream at him, "Don't you dare!" and slap him across the face. I feel very good about having spoken up and defended her. Then the whole building blows up.

I was taking the Agrimony Remedy, for the tendency to resist awareness of disturbing feelings, and to conceal any unhappiness from others. The dream reveals an aspect of the relationship between my parents of which I wasn't consciously aware, and has me act on my response to this awareness. The building blowing up represents the unleashing of deep feeling.

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I'm in a jungle. I see places where the land has been completely destroyed. There are other places which are dark and swampy. The water is very deep, and beneath it is the land of limited reality. It is ruled by an evil king who controls everyone. I feel myself sinking into this land, which is very heavy water. I feel the weight of it, and I know this is what happens when you don't take responsibility for being the creator of your life.

I was taking the Willow Remedy. for those who blame external circumstances and other people for their own misfortune. Resentment and bitterness are keywords for Willow. People in need of this Remedy characteristically turn their emotions inward, for which the swamp, a stagnant area, is a metaphor. In the dream I feel the weight of the water (held-in emotions) and have a clear appreciation of the emotional heaviness which results when I don't take responsibility for my life.

Bach Flower Remedies have increased my ability to remember my dreams, deepened their emotional quality, and made their symbolic content more accessible to me. I recommend them to all dream voyagers.

Connie Barrett has been a certified Bach Flower Remedy practitioner since 1990. Her website, <a href="http://www.rainbowcrystal.com">Beyond the Rainbow</a>, contains extensive information about flower essences. You can view this article there at http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/bach/dream

Connie Barrett

Beyond the Rainbow

New Age CatalogHolistic Resource

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Should We Control Our Dreams?

by Fred C. Olsen, M.Div.

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The question "Should we control our dreams?" has surfaced recently in the Dream Network letters to the editor with respect to lucid dreaming. This is not a new issue in the dream movement. In fact, one of the most vivid memories I had from the 1990 Association for the Study of Dreams (ASD) conference in Chicago was of a panel discussion on the subject "Should we control our dreams?" Very passionate and contradictory viewpoints were expressed. The same issues arise in Jungian psychology with respect to active imagination and in therapeutic circles, in general, when confronting the role of the conscious ego in relationship to the contents of the unconscious and between the therapist, or guide, and the dreamier. The issue of control touches the heart and soul of our relationship to dreams and dreaming, but more importantly, it infuses every area of our lives. We do not act, choose or relate without confronting the issue of control. Every world view, theology, cosmology, social, political and economic system has, at its core, a structure of belief about the appropriate nature, source and locus of control. Once we identify our survival with one of these points of view we act reflexively to defend that viewpoint, often with our lives.

In this article my purpose is not to provide a definitive answer to the issue of control in dreams but to expand the dimensions of our explorations. Why, for example, is this particular question so important to us in our cultural framework? I will present three dream accounts in which the issue of control arises in the dream and the accompanying dreamwork and I will explore: 1. some aspects of the nature and function of control, 2. what we mean by "our" dreams, and 3. who is the we that controls our dreams. As we dialogue on these essentials, then we can begin to approach the question 'should we control ourour dreams. As we dialogue on these essentials, then we might begin to approach the question 'should we, or should we not, control our dreams?

o Control -- A Cultural Bias

In Western culture, in contrast to many primal cultures, for example, we experience a primary split between Nature and Spirit, mind and body, consciousness and matter, outer reality and inner reality. Core Judeo-Christian images blended with Greek and Roman philosophy have provided a powerful engine that drives our civilization. A core belief pattern is that "Man", is subject to an unchanging law of God and is responsible to exercise dominion over nature, which, since the "Fall," is under the power of Evil (Satan). The only salvation for "Man" is to turn his life, loyalty and obedience back to this unchanging God which will insure a place in Heaven in the after-life. The secular, scientific, socio-political-economic models derived from this hierarchy of God over fallen Man, and Man over a corrupt Nature, is that we feel dissociated from Nature, including our own and we feel responsible to freely exploit and control nature to insure our unending progress (salvation). In this world view, God guides, or controls our destiny, and we control or have dominion over acorrupt nature. In the extreme view, nature is not worth saving at all. This simple vision of a hierarchy of power between God, humanity and a corrupted nature is in sharp contrast to the visions it supplanted and other major cultural and religious viewpoints.

For example, the Native American and other primal mythologies are not based on an individualistic ideal, or a hierarchy of control but on a relational, or communal ideal which includes the animals and plants, rocks and sky as part of a vital living community. It is not a model of dominance over, but of partnership with all that is that is crucial to survival. Nature is experienced as a conscious living being to be loved rather than an object to be used, abused and discarded at will. The Great Spirit (God) is infused in nature so that everything is in a living relationship to everything else. When we look at dreams and dreaming through these very different and contradictory viewpoints we arrive at very different perspectives on the issue of control.

The question "should we control our dreams?" may arise from the relationship to all that is. Then the issue of control is experienced in a totally different light. Instead of a hierarchy of power we find ourselves in a more fluid ecology and economy of shared relationships where the health of the whole is more important than the autonomy of the parts. In this world view dreams are meant to serve the whole community. The impossibility of determining the source of dreaming as from either God or nature may reflect more on the inadequacies of our limited world view than on the source or value of dreaming. During the ASD panel, Eugene Gendlin expanded the focus when he pointed out the importance of dialogue between the dreamer and the dream and within the dream. Through inner-dialogue a felt-shift occurs in the body if a breakthrough is achieved in the dreamer-dream relationship. During the question and answer period I suggested that we further expand our understanding of who the "we" is who is controlling in the first place.

My ongoing work with dreams and active imaging has revealed consistently that the locus of 'dream ego' control changes dynamically when within the inner-image experienced in relation to the body, through various feeling states and through layers of imagery within the dreamscape. This suggests that the relationship between the waking and dreaming domains are much more dynamic than we acknowledge from our preexisting viewpoints. I believe that as we expand and transform the limits of our understanding of our relationship to dreaming,we will transform the same limits in our lives and in our world.

There are a variety of ways to facilitate a fluid relationship between the many selves within our being. The key to all of them is to stay connected in the relationships through dialogue, interaction, choice and action. The following dream, for example, invites the dreamer to take greater control.

W's Dream

W dreamed that he was standing on a beach near a wide inlet of water. On the beach towering over him was a tall mechanical crane. The crane was unusual in that it was constructed of a delicate spiderweb-like material. It had a long arm. Whoever was in charge of the crane encouraged W to take over the controls and operate the crane from where he stood. W felt very small, inadequate and vulnerable. If the crane toppled it could fall on top of him. He wasn't sure of his competency to operate such a large and delicate machine.

In the dreamwork that followed W reentered the dream. He reluctantly took the controls and tried to operate the crane, which became unbalanced. He then relinquished the controls for fear of causing an accident. At this point in the reentry the scene changed. The crane now reached down using its own power and swept the water away with its long arm. This motion exposed the sea-life to the open air. In the nearby shallows a very large prehistoric Mako shark was exposed to the air. W was shocked that such a dangerous creature had come so close to shore where swimmers had been only moments before.

When W shared his associations related to the shark and the crane, it became clear that they were aspects of himself. The tall artistic mechanical crane that he had trouble controlling matched aspects of himself, as did the psychically attuned, efficient shark that traveled easily in the deep waters. The exposed identity of the small dream-ego, who was not in control, matched more closely his fears about himself. When he was able to bring the feeling of the crane and the shark into his body and view the reluctant person on the beach from that perspective the locus of control shifted dramatically. In his waking life the crane and the shark aspects operated independently of his diminished self-image. As he became increasingly aware of the inner relationships between the parts of himself, his abilities, and the way they serve him, he began to exercise greater control from a more expanded awareness. In this dream the invitation is for the dreamer to take greater control of his abilities and his power.

J's Dream

The opposite is true in the following dream. At a recent meeting of California Dreamworkers, Calamity shared the following dream. In the dream she saw her daughter Jezabel at the top of the stairs holding a talisman that had been given to Calamity by a beloved and skillful dreamer. In the dream the talisman opened like a flower, turned inside-out and then crumbled into a black powder. Calamity was appalled. The scene then changed. Now Calamity was alone in the middle of the ocean holding on to a pole with one hand. The pole was anchored solidly to the floor of the ocean and rose about twenty feet into the air. All of the ocean was calm except around the pole. A whirlpool spun faster and faster. Calamity spun out from the pole so that she had to hold on tightly with both hands. The faster she and the water spun the more desperate Calamity felt and the tighter she held on.

In the dreamwork, when Calamity realized that the pole was secure, she was able to embrace the pole. The pole then shifted inside her body and aligned with her spine. Now she could let go and feel safe, centered and peaceful at any depth or height on the pole. On her way home that night, Calamity realized that the pole was a symbol of her horse Spark. She had purchased Spark to replace the one she had lost as a child. Her childhood pony had been her symbol of safety and spiritual connection as a child.

When Calamity arrived home that night, Jezabel had prearranged to trailer Spark to a horse-show the next day with another woman's horse. From Calamity's perspective everything was wrong with this picture. Neither horse had been trailered, the trailer was rented, etc. It was a disaster in the making. Calamity immediately slipped into her pattern of feeling out of control and distrusting the circumstances. Then Jezabel said "Mom, you never trust me." The dreamwork immediately flooded back to Calamity. At that moment she understood the dream. By entrusting Spark--the talisman--in Jezabel's hands it could flower and turn inside out and release the magic of the spirit into the atmosphere. When Calamity shifted to the new level of trust and allowed the transformed dream energy to infuse the situation, the next day fell into place like magic. Control was shared between herself, Jezabel and the magic of the moment. This led to a positive shift in their relationship.

In W's dream the issue was for him to take greater control whereas Calamity needed to let go of control and trust the connections in the moment. Here the dream, the dreamwork and the outer events coincided in a magical synchronicity where control was shared in a dance between the players and the greater purpose of the moment.

o Control in Systems Theory

In systems theory control is shared by interacting processes that each contribute to balance and equilibrium in the system as a whole enable the system to fulfill its purpose. It restrains as well as guides and maintains the system integrity as a whole. Should we exercise restraint over our dreams? Some people are so overwhelmed by dream content that they need to find ways to slow the frequency of recall. Others attempt, with great frustration, to recall any dream or fragment. Some, plagued with overwhelming nightmares, need to find relief in order to gain equilibrium in life. Should we exercise direction over our dreams? Anyone who incubates a dream--a very common dream skill--is in some measure setting out to exercise, at least partial, direction over dreams and dreaming. Should our dreams exercise direction over our lives? Few serious dreamers would deny the value of dreams for clarifying, at least on occasion, our life direction. Should our dreams dominate us, or command us, hold us in check or curb us? Even here we would, I believe, find occasions to say yes. I believe that if we ponder the question of control deeply we will be compelled to recognize that we are engaged in a co-creative relationship in life at every moment.

o The Locus of Dream Control

The question is not a simple "should we control our dreams?" or "should our dreams control us?" The question of control lies at the heart and soul of who we are. From moment to moment we face the choice, the freedom and the responsibility to exercise, relinquish or share control. Instead of "should we control?" it makes more sense to ask *who*is in control, under what circumstances, by what means and for what reasons at each and every moment, in every aspect of our dreaming and waking life. We might then learn to take seriously our relationships, our purpose, our freedom, our responsibility, our limitations and the mystery of our existence in relationship to the vast dimensions and connections between our inner and outer worlds.

I have learned that the locus of control varies fluidly in many dimensions. It changes according to where the dream originates in the body. For example, in the heart I may find a very different dream than in my stomach, throat or head. The dreamer or dream-ego is an inveterate shape-shifter. In age, dress, feeling, intention and context. It is humbling to realize that my inner two-year-old makes so many of my decisions.

o Who is the 'we' that controls?

When tracking the locus of the dream during active therapeutic imaging we note that shifts in feeling state, attention in the body, and changes in context, also shift the dream-ego identity as well. At one moment the dream-ego may be an innocent five-year-old. At another moment a traumatized twelve-year-old. At still another moment a future older and wiser self. When the various inner characters communicate, relate and act together, the inner world changes naturally to reflect the resulting changes in the dreamers consciousness. When conflict, confusion or dissociation represented in the inner imagery becomes clear and resolved, the outer life experience, including physical symptoms, shift accordingly. When we recognize and relate to these 'many selves' within us, we are then empowered to move to a higher order of control in our dreams and in our waking life.

o The Western Fallacy of Independence

The western myth of the independent controlling ego may prove to be a major fallacy of our fragmented civilization. When we come to recognize that free and responsible choice is rather a product of a relational consciousness in a global context, then we will understand our true relationship to our dreaming universe.

Control is not at all about me controlling the dream or about the dream controlling me. It is rather a control that unfolds from a conscious relationship in which we explore and co-create the universe together. The world of our dreams is a flexible world in which we are able to safely practice and rehearse, to blunder and fall, to discover, uncover and recover. It is here that we expand our consciousness to embrace our many selves and the other. When we bring our dream characters into our waking life they assist us in co-creating a new world. When our battles are fought and resolved in the imaginal realm with full consciousness, then we don't have to act out our violence in the physical world. We are enabled to break through to new and vital ways of being in a healthy world. This is the process of mythmaking. It is where we learn to crawl, to walk, to run, to fly, and together to transform the world. When we are attuned in this way, the inner and the outer coincide. Our dreams and synchronicity then flow together seamlessly as we saw in J's dream experience.

R's Dream

A third dream example illustrates the issue of control in our dreams and in our lives. At the same California Dreamworker'smeeting, R related the following story from his recent trip to the Dreaming in India Conference. After thirty-six hours of travel and finding himself overwhelmed by the stimulation of India, R was working very hard to control and capture every minute of his experience in his journal. He became exhausted and sick. Then he dreamed that he saw a structure made of square cubicles. In each cubicle was an Indian God. He dreamed that he awoke late in the day. He had, as a result, missed breakfast and the morning events of the conference. Jarred from this realization he awoke to realize that the first awakening was a false awakening. It was actually early in the morning. He had plenty of time to prepare. When R related the dream to his Indian room-mate, the room-mate said "It seems that you have an issue of control. It will be very difficult for you to control your experience in India." With this realization, R let go. He stopped recording every detail in his journal and trusted the flow of his emerging experiences. His illness subsided and from then on he flowed happily and easily through the remainder of his journey, experiencing many synchronicities and adventures along the way. A key to R's transformation was the timing of his sharing with, and accepting of, the input from a stranger who could see the dream from an alternate perspective.

When we trust ourselves and our dreams with others, life expands in its wonder and majesty. When we come into alignment with the myriad dimensions of reality, our dreams and our life respond to us accordingly. We are supported in taking greater or lesser control, or shifting our control to an expanded dimension of reality where we adopt a seamless attitude between our dream life and our waking life. It is ultimately the quality of our attitude that makes the difference, not the degree of waking or sleeping, or our lucidity or nonlucidity.

By affirming a conscious relationship to our symbolic life we can discover and rehearse the deep patterns and consequences of our choices and actions before they are manifested in material form. With the courage, vulnerability and commitment to seek the deeper layers of truth and good in our relationships within and without we have within us the capacity to transform and heal, or to abuse and destroy our world.

This is our final choice....

Fred Olsen, dreamtreck@aol.com

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Thanks to DreamNetwork Journal for permission and sending the transcript.What, Never heard of the DNJ?

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Developing Lucid Dreaming in the Netherlands:

A Personal Account by

Carolus M. den Blanken

Utrecht,The Netherlands

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Drs Carolus M den Blanken will be offering us at Electric Dreams a few months of his research material collected over a life time and we will be giving the *introduction* here on the e-zne and then directing you to the WEB site for the main body of the paper. This material appeared in: Lucidity,11(1&2)85-93:1992-1993.

Edited by Elinor Gebremedhin for Lucidity. This paper is based on a French-language address to the European Association for the Study of Dreams, delivered on October 12,1991 in Mons, Belgium. A French version with the title "Le rêve lucide aux Pays-Bas" appeared in Oniros,34/35,17-19;1991.

Intro

Some time ago, when Mr. Roger Ripert invited me to give a presentation at a meeting of the European Association for the Study of Dreams(EASD), I hesitated to accept this invitation.

I felt honored, of course, but despite a number of invitations throughout the years, I had always kept myself aloof from seminars and congresses. Hopefully, the variety of reasons I had will become clear during this presentation.

The primary reason, however, I want to disclose at the outset. I had always wondered what new perspectives I could bring to the lucid dream field. I am just a simple lucid dreamer, like so many of you, and I do not have the opportunity to do scientific research. The fact that I have published some articles and a book regarding lucid dreaming seemed insufficient reasons for a presentation today.

Suddenly, however, I realized that by addressing you I would have an opportunity to express some feelings I have carried around with me for a long time. By voicing the situations that I have experienced in the Netherlands, I could not only clarify my own position, but also be a spokesman for all those anonymous people in other countries that have no dreamer networks or scientific research on lucid dreaming. I would guess that there are a lot of individuals like myself, who have been carrying the lucid dream vehicle in their country completely through own efforts, without mental or financial backup. I will say more about this later. In addition, I thought I would now have the opportunity to express my ambivalent feelings towards lucid dream research. So you see, I am warning you that the title of this lecture is somewhat misleading. Enough clarifying, the story.

For the main body of this paper, please stop by

www.dreamgate.com/dreams/blanken/blanken2.htm

Also, see the extensive Lucid Dream Bibliography, edited by Drs. Carolus M. den Blanken from the Netherlands, which is now available online. For more details, see This month's Global Dreaming News

Search "blanken"

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Column: Life, Art, Dream

A Summary

by Alissa Goldring

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Many Thanks to Alissa Goldring, who has been providing us each month with a wonderful dream inspired art and self reflection column. Alissa is on a break for awhile, but you can still catch her past illustrated columns online. Here are some of the topics she has covered.

DreamLife, July 1997 Good Humor

DreamLife, June 1997 Books

DreamLife, May 1997 Bones

DreamLife, April 1997 Crying

DreamLife, March 1997 Refrigerator

DreamLife, February 1997 Snow/Adhesives

DreamLife, January 1997 Projection

DreamLife, December 1996 Fire

DreamLife, November 1996 Suitcase

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Cyberdream - History Notes

Richard Wilkerson

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I thought I would include this article for those of you who need a short summary of dream sharing online. This is a reprint of an topic I brought up on the Cybermind discussion list.

CYBERMIND@LISTSERV.AOL.COMWed Aug6 09:34:12 1997

Date:Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:50:27 -0400

From:AOL User <RCWilk@AOL.COM>

Subject: Cyberdreams - History Notes

Cyber-dream - History Notes

Now that the grassroots dreamwork movement that has been growing since the sixties is online, there is an unique opportunity to watch and participate in how this unfolds in cyberspace.

When I first came online most of the dream sharing was done via email and occasional IRC. I tried to track down dream sharing in MUDs and MOOs, but it has proven to be too spontaneous. Someone will mention a dream they had, others may join in. If you have records of this, send me a reference.

All of the dream sharing at that time was non-clinical, grassroots insight and peer relationship oriented. The quality varied widely. Many groups achieved very imaginal, though time limited, insight groups. Sometimes it was just spew of folklore and pseudo-psychology.

The first really unique cyber-dream groups were developed by John Herbert as offshoots of his work in prisons and on BBSs. John migrated from the WELL to AOL when Seniornet offered him free bulletin board space to conduct his research. They really had him buried there, and it took me months to find him even after I heard he was doing dreamwork online.

John's study compared offline and online groups, revealing that while face-to-face groups, as he calls them, offer a more emotional experience, the online groups were self-rated as higher in insight by the dreamer presenting the dream. If you are interested in his work, see:

Herbert, J.W.(1991).Human Science Research Methods in Studying Dreamwork: Qualitative and Quantitative Analysis of Face-to-Face and Computer Dream Work Groups" Unpublished Manuscript, Saybrook Institute, San Francisco, http://users.aol.com/john0417/HuSci/Greet.html

(25 Nov.1996)

About the same time the Usenet newsgroup alt.dreams emerged, originally suggested by Jack Campin as a way to study contemporary culture. He wanted a snapshot of dreams in the late 20th Century much in the same way that _The Third Reich of Dreams_gives a snapshot of the society in Nazi Germany. But it was soon apparent that the real appeal of alt.dreams was to share dreams and discussions about their significance and meaning.Now alt.dream.lucid and alt.dreams.castaneda have split off to form their own discussion areas. Still, there was continual disappointment around the dream sharing.

The original Electric Dreams community formed out of a response to the shallowness of these discussions. Using the unique Net abilities to send mail around cheaply, a group of 60 or so dreamers formed an e-zine of dreams and comments on dreams that they distributed bi-monthly. Eventually we began experimenting with Herbert's techniques via email, forming short lived but intensely focused groups. Unlike other mail lists that grow and shrink according to their own pattern, the Electric Dreams groups automatically unsubscrib*d everyone automatically at the end of each group. The key technique seem to be having everyone own upfront their own psychological projections, by saying prefacing, either literally or in an implied way "In my dream..."Or " If this were my dream...."This reduced the group as something being "done" to the dreamer and opened up the energy for the whole group to participate in.

About this time the Web was beginning to take off and an explosion of unique cyber-dream sharing began, from interpretive services to free comment boards to a wild and wide variety of non-interpretive sharing, such as dream inspired art galleries, hyperlinked dream journals and soulful mythical education centers arising from cultural and archetypal psychology.

In 1996 the Association for the Study of Dreams held its annual conference in Berkeley, and this was a hard time for the Electric Dreams community. Basically the ASD board was very wary of dream sharing online and determined to not have any exhibitions of this at the conference. This was during that paranoid time when the only reports to the general public on the Net seemed to be about child abuse and pornography. (The planning for the conference was all in 1994-1995).The board was very generous about dreams and computers in other ways and gave us room enough for the week to set up a half dozen computers, have demos, clinics, seminars, and discussion panels. Just no dream sharing. That was taboo. I'm still struggling with policies of linkage with the online web site.

The issue of free speech in Cyberspace then began to take prominence. As you can guess, some dreams and dream sharing can dip very quickly into - well, odd and adult topics. This has forced us to remind people who sign up for groups that they *are*, at this time, meant for adults. There is no reason they couldn't be handled appropriately with children, but no one to my knowledge has yet attempted to run such a group.

For the text of a sample group,

www.dreamgate.com/asd-13/2lb12.htm

Once dreams have been liberated from the couch and brought out into the culture at large, a wonderful group of events seem to occur, at least within the group. New ways of entertainingdream images that are not tied to medical models begin to unfold in a wide variety of directions.

And that's the question I like to keep putting out - what are ways to approach dream images on the Net that provide meaning and value? Poetically speaking, what does the dream image itself call for that can happen only in current electric currents?

-Richard

rcwilk@aol.com

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Madame Aionia's Astrological Dreaming Series:

Dreaming Through the Houses: 8^th House

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Have you ever wondered how dreams and astrology are connected?

There are many ways we can connect dreams to astrology, and many don't require that you know all about your Natal Chart. In this column we will be exploring the symbolic rather than predictive aspects of astrology. Symbolic astrology attempts to use the images ofastrological to give meaning to one's life and empower choices rather than predict paths. We do this by imaginal overlay. In this process we impleach, (poetically interweave)dream, image, feeling, life and symbol in a way to evoke a felt sense of the dream's imagery and its position in our life.

This year we are focusing each month on a different House.The inner circle of the Natal or Birth Chart is divided into 12 distinct regions know as Houses. They relate to everyday activates. One will be about physical appearances and temperament, while another relates to possessions, for example. Planets and signs fall within these Houses and influence the areas of focus. We will be watching for images of planets, signs and other celestial events and hopefully begin to see the emergence of an astrological chart that dips into birth charts, dreams, and our waking life.

The Eighth House. Scorpio. To build an image of Eight House dreaming, The passions of Scorpio will need to be explored as well as death, and feelings and possessions gained through others. In partnership with the lower energy of the self possessions of the Second House, the eight house may be seen as the feelings and possessions gained through others. The life/death cycle in this house generates a variety of emotional and sexual energy, including love and hate, jealously and revenge, mysteries of occultism and psychism, after-death research, transmutations and transformations.

Dream: Grandfather sits in a chair by the fire and checks off a list as the children each talk to him. He is telling us what he is going to leave to us. I see that he go two checks on the list. He looks back at me an grins, and I feel an ancient hatred, but grin at him anyway and see that this upsets him and know this is a crucial moment for us.

In the Eight House the flow of feeling is between one and another. This can be positive as well.

Dream: When she finally was allowed into the room, we acted like we knew one another all our lives. I felt like a stream of feeling existed between us and knew she would be my bride, if I could only keep focused on the agreement.

Dream: I was about to say my oaths when I realized this wasn't my fiancé at all, but someone completely unknown. I panicked, but was so scared I didn't say anything and we got married anyway. I am waking around the house now, I can't believe this has happened.

This house is often called the House of Death, an over focus on one of its aspects, just as the "money received from others" is part of this house, but only an aspect. These interpretations are OK as far as they go, but don't really lead anywhere. Rather, I would suggest that the interchange of finances relates to the meaning of money as a symbol of emotional values. In the inheritance dream above, we could focus on the inheritance as an object that reveals the sibling rivalry, or we can look at the inheritance as that which accumulation of karmic emotion which flows in death to the next generation. Reading a dream as an eighth house dream leads to clues to the significance of our emotional constitution in matters of sex, emotional crisis, and the death and rebirth of the instincts as transformed desire.

In this sense, money too becomes a symbol of emotional dependence or freedom. Note in our culture the tie between money and how free or dependent we are in relationship, how sexual values are colored by our finances, how financial and emotional stinginess so often come together.

Watch for dreams at this level of difficult financial situations, odd partnership and marriage agreements, demanding partners, and selling sex for security or other gains.

Watch for crisis. The eighth house is a battleground for self-understanding and self-mastery via crisis. Here can be found the creative and procreative forces though which we contact others. Just like the way people come together in an earthquake or flood, or sex, the issue of this house lift us out of our personal world and unite us with a larger wheel. What for signs of resolution of these crises in symbols that combine opposites, such as the ourobouros, or serpent eating his own tail, the plumed serpent of the Aztecs, or mandala - circular symbolism that may initially repel but also fascinates.

Watch for issues of sexual inadequacy. While commonly seen as an issue of potency and competency, it may be better re-visioned from the view of the Eighth house as an issue of emotional fearfulness. This fear relates to giving up oneself to another on a social level, and giving up to death on a spiritual level. And these fears may be well founded and closely heeded. Forcing oneself to become more sexually competent is not the way to become more emotionally evolved. Neither is forcing emotional connection. The partner may be the wrong lover, and big issue of control, of violation, and emotional rejection may be at play. Becoming vulnerable with the wrong people can be abusive. On the other hand, with an open and willing partner, the exploration of emotional flow during sex can be quite liberating.

Also, sexually speaking from the Eighth house, one might be a "perfect lover" physically, but be blocking the flow of emotional energy. Watch in dreams for lovers that morph and change and don't remain stable during the actual act of sex.

If the Eighth House dream traveler can be said to be seeking something, it is connection. In their lower forms, these connections may be dependent, ill, defeating and abusive. But the underlying issue is really union over security, and particularly intense, transformative unions. Those who are reaching for the sky just to surrender (thank you Leonard Cohen) are in for a bumpy ride. Sex, money, relationships and feelings can be used to gain object security, but this leaves us generally unsatisfied without the real union with the deep levels of the unconscious that bring life-giving healing to oneself and others.

Next month: 9th House -Profound mental activities and foreign travel in foreign lands. Send in your dreams to

M. Aionia at aionia@dreamgate.com

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Meditation on One Eighth House Facet: Sex and Sexuality

Island

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July 31st: Today up about 7:15 following the first vivid dream in quite some time. The dream also followed on the heels of my in essence providing closure on doing further work related to HIV positive men and women, usually contracted sexually, and after nine years -- I began in August 1988.

"First Ring The Bell"

I dreamed LK (a legend in the gay community) comes to see me. I am both surprised and very happy to see him, and I tell him so. There is one thing especially on my mind -- what to do with the interviews, for I have better than 600 people who have spilled their guts. Then RM (another gay leader) shows and, although my husband and family are on the premises, perhaps in other rooms, it is as if the three of us bond together. At some point, we are laying together, and I feel very warm and affectionate toward them. But I also feel somewhat awkward -- would my husband understand that it has nothing really to do with sexuality?

LK and I leave to go a block away to eat breakfast. He chooses a breakfast place in a house that is among a row of old houses. The area looks rather dilapidated and rundown, but the breakfast place promises an authentic, old style breakfast. I barge right in, opening the door of this old mansion without ringing the bell or knocking, and LK corrects me. "Ring the bell first." I say, "I see nothing suggesting I should do that." I suddenly feel awkward, as if I've committed some faux pas, and wish to recover gracefully. I do not want LK's feeling about me to sour. But then I see on the lower left hand corner of the entrance plaque, positioned to the left side of the building, a small buzzer, suggesting that one ring the bell before entering. But you would have to really look hard to see it. Then I ask LK, "Where did you find this place?"

My feeling about it is, despite all appearances, there is something so authentic, so real, that it is an experience of a lifetime to breakfast there. The insiders pass along information about it, so what seems like a real and rare find to me is just common knowledge among the insiders. We enter and stand in the foyer.

At this point my husband and stepson are also there. They, however, complain about the smell, and how could LK bring us to such a place? I do detect an odor, but I am OK with it. Then LK leaves briefly to go to a gas station across the way, I believe, to get change. When he returns, we stand just inside the entrance, perhaps even on the porch or veranda. He embraces me and kisses me very affectionately, and I am surprised to feel he is sexually aroused. Odd, because he's gay. I can almost read his thoughts: if he had met me much earlier on, he might not have been gay and been forced to live such a disenfranchised life. [end of dream]

I hardly know LK and, though RM, a very close mutual friend, told me more than once that I was LK's female counterpart, I always resisted that perception. LK is a revolutionary. I am not. I have made little impact outside my little world. Here I am, after months of agonizing, prepared to let all the interviews go -- turn to something totally different and new -- suddenly dreaming about LK and RM. I do obsess about the interviews -- thousands of pages, millions of words -- about a world of cruelty and indifference surrounding an HIV positive person, unless he or she is aligned with other HIV positive people, but what can I do? The dream says, "First ring the bell." --"Tinkle, tinkle, tinkle," I can see me now, picking up a tiny little bell, and shaking it a few times. Not Quasimodo, ringing the bells of Notre Dame, with all the fervor of his being, though I have often imagined that I felt like Quasimodo, and quickly found myself aligning with others who felt similarly. Even as young as seven. Remember TCalamity who failed three or four times and stood several heads taller than the others in the second grade? Remember how they laughed and made fun of him? I hated that. And I told them so. But sometimes I have not been able to say a word, as if my tongue had been cut out of my mouth, like Shakespeare's Lavinia in Titus Andronicus.

Wonder why? Breakfast. Break - fast. Should I break away fast? Should I apply the brakes quickly? Should I break the fast -- somehow release myself from a perpetual fasting mentality? Or should I enjoy a good hearty breakfast, like the kind Auntie used to cook on the farm? With buscuits and churned butter and maple syrup and grits and eggs and sausages and pies and fruit and juice? That old style breakfast where a lot of people are gathered, enjoying the early morning, and a huge table piled with food? I am so conflicted. What to do? What to really do? How could I be brought to such a place by LK? So my husband and my stepson do not like the smell (of decay and death? of the interior? of what)? Why am I OK with it and they are not? Why do I believe that to be gay is not defined by one's sexuality really. To my mind there is something else going on than just merely being attracted to a same sex partner. To my mind a heterosexual can be gay. But of course, I'm ridiculously wrong. And that thought at the end of the dream, that had he met me earlier on, he might not have been gay, or taken a different path, well -- that doesn't really refer to LK. That must be MK -- will I ever get over his suicide?

So I ask LK: "Where did you find this place" [in your heart]? How did you discover it [your heart]?" Only the insiders know. Just "first ring the bell." Auntie. The only one who ever fixed those huge, old style breakfasts that put me in awe. I'm so glad I told Calamity (her daughter) recently that Auntie had the biggest heart of anyone I had ever known -- it was big enough to embrace the Universe. Each one of her five children are the sweetest, gentlest, best human beings I have ever known. Odd but in their community, they were ostracized throughout their childhood. Separated. Made to feel "less than." People talked about them behind their backs, in whispers, excluded them. Even their own first cousins were forbidden to have anything to do with them. They found out why once they became adults. What could they do about the fact that their mother was dying of cancer for more than 20 years and their father in the meantime started a second family with a black woman in a rural southern town with the KKK on the rampage just thirty miles away. Their father is as wonderful a man as Auntie is a woman. They were the perfect pair, and yet -- the cancer struck her in her twenties, so many cobalt treatments, her sexual urges must have been affected soon thereafter -- and the black woman he ended up with helped Auntie run the house. How did everything get so twisted and tangled and knotted? In their family? In mine? That's why I have a million questions about sex and sexuality. Does sexuality -- primal -- who can really do anything to alter its impact, no matter how its flow is diverted and rechanneled -- somehow do the twisting and the tangling and the knotting? How do we untangle ourselves?

I just ran across this passage! Steinbeck puts the matter plainly in the preacher's mouth in Grapes of Wrath:

"I says to myself, 'What's gnawin' you? Is it the screwin'?' an' I says, 'No, it's the sin.' An' I says, "why is it that when a fella ought to be just about mule-ass proof against sin, an' full up of Jesus, why is it that's the time a fella gets fingerin' his pants buttons?'" He laid two fingers down in his palm in rhythm, as though he gently placed each word there side by side. "I says, 'Maybe it ain't a sin. Maybe it's just the way folks is. Maybe we been whippin' the hell out of ourselves for nothin'.' An' I thought how some sisters took to beatin' theirselves with a three-foot shag of bobwire. An' I thought how maybe they liked to hurt themselves, an' maybe I liked to hurt myself. Well, I was layin' under a tree when I figured that out, and I went to sleep. And it come night, an' it was dark when I come to. They was a coyote squawkin' near by. Before I knowed it, I was sayiin' out loud, 'The hell with it! There ain't no sin and there ain't no virtue. There's just stuff people do. It's all part of the same thing. And some of the things folks do is nice, and some ain't nice, but that's as far as any man got a right to say.'"

Steinbeck may have begun to answer some question for himself...will my questions ever be answered? What about my first original question before I turned six? "Why do human beings do what they do to each other?" Is sexuality (or lack of) the root of it? Is it fear of death? What is it? What? What?

What?

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G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S

August-September 1997

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This Month's Features:

NEWS

- A Dream Treck to Support the Dream Network

-Intuitive Watercolor Painting

- Alchemical Dreamwork

- "Night Passages of the Soul: Exploring our Dreams"

- Greece Dream & Myth Tour -- July 1998

- Mutual Dreaming Author Radio Interview

RESEARCH & REQUESTS

- Searching for Dreams of Future Worlds

- Psychic Dream Survey

- Mysterious Words

- Wanted: Inner Child Dreams

- Search for Dreams

- Dreams Needed for Book

- Dreams of the Dead

WEBSITE & ONLINE UPDATES

- Dr. Strange's Dream and Paranormal Forum

- Dream Bibliographies Online - Update

- Medieval Dream Resources

- Sex, Symbols & Dreams

- Sleep and Dreams Research Web Site

- Nocturnal Postings

- Dream Helpers

- Richard Wilkerson New ASD WebMaster

LATE BREAKING DREAM NEWS

- James Hillman in Berkeley - Dream Animals

- History of Dreaming - Online Class Sept 1.

- Dream Show Changes On AOL

DREAM CALENDAR

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<<<<<<A Dream Treck to Support the Dream Network

Fred Olsen recently embarked on a Dream Treck across America to share his process of Dream Reentry Healing, to support the creation and nurturing of emerging communities of dreamers, and to explore the transformational currents of dreaming in America. His goal is to share an emerging vision and perspective that can make a difference in resolving the unnatural divisions within our selves and in our world. His tools, perspectives and insights have made a difference in the lives of many people and in the groups and organizations he has worked with. Fred recently purchased a small Toyota Dolphin motor home in Boston, MA and set out on a journey to conduct a series of introductory workshops. He presented in Troy, NY, Concord and Quincy, MA, New York City, Vienna, VA, Oklahoma City, and Paradise, CA. Because of the initial interest stimulated on the summer Dream Treck, Fred is organizing a more extensive tour this Fall and next Spring. His three goals are: To teach his process of Dream Reentry Healing as vehicle for transforming and healing. (Note: The Dream Reentry Healing process is particularly effective as a tool for therapists and healers working with deep cellular and soul trauma though not limited to this group); To support the creation and nurturing of sustainable dream-oriented communities and, To collect and study dreams and inner experiences related to collective traumas in our culture. You are encouraged to contact Fred to arrange for a workshop, training or presentation in your area. He can be contacted on-line through his e-mail address at Dreamtreck@aol.com. Check out his web site at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/reentry for more information on Fred and his work. Fred's articles have appeared from time to time in the Dream Network. He sounded the call for, and co-founded the Bay Area Dreamworker's Group (BADG) in 1985.

<<<<<< Intuitive Watercolor Painting with Susan St. Thomas M.A. Sunday afternoons September 14, 21, and 28, 2-5 pm, at East West Gallery/Conference Center in Mountain View: 415 988-9800 .Learn basic and experimental watercolor techniques of painting and empower the artist within through intuitive exercises and the development of dream art process. Explore art as meditationr ather than imitation. For information and a materials list, contact Susan at 415 647- 5245 or sstmandala@telis.org or call East West to register. $85 for the series.

<<<<<< Alchemical Dreamwork

Dream Studies Program at Twin Lakes College of the Healing Arts in Santa Cruz, CA begins September 19. The 200 hour program is designed as a progressive multi-level training that will prepare students to work professionally with dreams. Throughout the course, students will be engaged in the process of exploring their own dreams as a foundation for working with the dreams of others. Training is oriented towards Jungian based dreamwork, as well as recognizing the many ways in which various cultures utilize dreamwork as a valuable resource for healing and guidance. Our "client-centered" model of training respects the unique aspects of each dream and dreamer. A Dream Studies Certificate will be awarded upon the successful completion of this program. The Dream Studies Program is for... * personal exploration of dreams * people who want a professional practice in dreamwork * professionals who want to integrate dreamwork into another practice of the healing or educational arts - such as hypnotherapy, massage and bodywork, aromatherapy, acupuncture, chiropractic, teaching, counseling, psychotherapy, and traditional western medical modalities.

For more information and brochure, contact Twin Lakes College of the Healing Arts, 1210 Brommer St., Santa Cruz, CA 95062. Phone (408) 476-2152.

<<<<<< "Night Passages of the Soul: Exploring our Dreams" Oct. 15 - 19, 1997 -- Camp Gualala, CA.

This is one of many exciting workshops at this women's week long retreat, Womanspirit. Womanspirit '97 is sponsored by the Santa Rosa Church of Religious Science. Registration must be for the entire retreat. Cost of the entire week is $295. For more information on Womanspirit phone SRCRS at (707) 546-4543. For information about this specific workshop, contact: Hochima Denise Treppa, MFCC (707) 664-6607.

<<<<<<Greece Dream & Myth Tour -- July 1998

Kathy and Jeremy Taylor will lead a unique tour for dreamers, sponsored by Starr King School for the Ministry. Places visited include Athens, Delphi, Mycenae, Epidaurus, Ephesus, the islands of Crete, Santorini and Samos and other spectacular spots. Jeremy will provide myth stories and Kathy will lead dreamwork every day for those interested. Cost is expected to be about $3,500 (departure New York). If you are interested, please contact the Taylors at 415-454-2793 or email ktaylor597@aol.com for more information, as the tour is expected to fill quickly.

<<<<<<Mutual Dreaming Author Radio Interview

Linda Lane Magallon will be the featured guest on KAZU radio on September 10th. Linda is the author of the newly published book "Mutual Dreaming." The show, "Dreams: Another Way of Knowing," is hosted by Kathleen Sullivan every Wednesday at 7:00 PM. You can find KAZU at 90.3 FM. The range of this Pacific Grove station extends north to the Highway 17 summit, south to Esalen and east to Hollister.

R E S E A R C H & R E Q U E S T S

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<<<<<<Searching for Dreams of Future Worlds

I am searching for people who have frequent dreams of the future world. I have been keeping an active dream journal for the past five years, during which time I have accumulated over 1,000 dreams. At least 80% of these dreams deal with the world in the future; for the most part the world seen in my dreams is military or computer controlled. Each dream, however, is unique. I am hoping to find others who have similar dreams, perhaps we will be able to come up with a common ground. I have not only recalled dreams but also words, maps, dates and symbols. I would really appreciate hearing of your experiences, even if they are not in the same direction as mine. Please send me your dreams atjmanson@escape.ca

<<<<<<Psychic Dream Survey

Those who are 21 years or older who have experienced either precognitive, telepathic or clairvoyant dreams and would like to participate in a research project designed to study the range of these experiences, please call or write for a questionnaire to:Helen Erickson, 1208 Virginia Way, La Jolla, CA 92037, 619-459-8557, e-mail: HErick7847@aol.com. This study is part of a doctoral dissertation which attempts to advance the knowledge of precognition, telepathy and clairvoyance in dreams. All responses are confidential and there is no follow-up contact. The questionnaire takes between 15-30 minutes to fill out.

<<<<<<Mysterious Words

I would like to gather information from dreamers on unknown words. My method of dream recollection requires me to keep a pen and paper beside my bed. On occasion I have awaken in the middle of the night and began to write. When I awake in the morning I find a paragraph or sentence that I do not recall. I read it over in hopes that it will trigger a dream memory but it does not. In these writings I have found words that sound like words, however I have searched many language dictionaries to not find them anywhere. Here are a few examples Senjula , balice, hese, cawwinaw, I would love to hear if anyone out there has had similar occurrences please email your mysterious dream words tojmanson@escape.ca If you know of any meanings for these words I would also love to here from you. I have on occasion written full paragraphs during these times, I would also like to hear if you have had this happen.

<<<<<Wanted: Inner Child Dreams

If you have a dream that you feel represents an Inner-Child aspect of yourself, please share. More specifically, I am collecting dreams that represent an inner self-parenting process known as Inner Bonding (Margaret Paul, Ph.D) ; becoming a Loving Adult to your own Inner Child. [For more information about the process, see http://home.earthlink.net/~innerbond].Feel free to e-mail me for more information or to send a dream. Nancy Weston at InnerKid2@aol.com

<<<<<Search for Dreams

I was wondering if anyone would like to submit their dreams to be displayed on my web page. I've gotten some friends that are doing it already, but I'm trying to get a kinda archive goin'... If you're interested, PLEASE e-mail me!! Right now I'll put anyone's up! No matter what they are about (just as long as you're being serious about the dream). Anyway, my site is at http://auspex.home.ml.org, check it out and tell me what you think! One of my friends has already posted stuff and I'm getting ready to post mine (I'm not good at dream recall so I barely remember anything.) Contact Auspex <Auspex@usa.net>

<<<<<Dreams Needed for Book

I'm currently writing a book on dreams. Please e-mail any dreams you would like in the book and a name you would like with them to unstab19@mail.idt.net .PLEASE I really need to get this book done...e- mail me funny, romantic, scarry, whatever!

<<<<< Dreams of the Dead

I am a clinical psychologist. I am trying to help a doctoral candidate who is doing research on dreams that include people who have died. We are looking for examples of dreams that involve the dead and for people who might be willing to be interviewed about this. Any help would be appreciated. Contact jcoppin@psyber.com .

W E B S I T E & O N L I N E U P D A T E S

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<<<<<Dr. Strange's Dream and Paranormal Forum

Eureka Science Forum - Paranormal Section

http://forums.msn.com/Eureka

E-Mail DoctorStrange@msn.com

Hosts: Lucid Dream Chat on Sunday, 7-8 PM PT,

Hosts: Paranormal Science Chat on Wednesday 6-8 PM PT

Listing of Complete Strange Dreams Library Contents

Handout #1 Lucid Dreams

Handout #2 Lucid Dream Incubation Technique

Handout #3 Out of Body Experiences

Handout #4 Alien Abductions and OBEs

Handout #5 Healing

Handout #6 Mutual Dreams

Handout #7 Hypnagogia

Format: This group uses the Paranormal Science section of the Eureka Forum, especially the Paranormal Science BBS.New participants can work with any of the posted handouts in any order, although beginners should probably start with Handout #1.Participants can post their experiences and comments in regard to the task on the BBS.They can also discuss their experiences on-line with Dr. Strange in the Eureka_1 Chat Room during the weekly scheduled Paranormal Science Chat from 6-8 PM PT on Wednesdays, and Lucid Dream Chat, from 7-8 PM PT on Sundays.

<<<<<Dream Bibliographies Online - Update

www.dreamgate.com/dream/bibs/

A wonderful new addition to the Dream Bibs: www.dreamgate.com/dream/bibs/blanken.htm An extensive Lucid Dream Bibliography, edited by Drs. Carolus M. den Blanken from the Netherlands is now available online. The bulk of this review contains books, articles and doctoral dissertations on lucid dreaming as we know it today. Also included are references on books, articles etc. on e.g. out-of-the-body experiences, Tibetan yoga etc. (but only those which are frequently mentioned by lucid dream authors,e.g. references to Carlos Castaneda, Evans-Wentz a.o..) Of notable interest to all lucid dream researchers is that Den Blanken has provided references to hard to locate articles in journals such as Lucidity Letter, Oniros, Bewusst-Sein. The author would like to expand this review with your help. Please send any additions that are related to the subject of lucid dreaming. Drs. Carolus M. den Blanken vag@worldaccess.nl

<<<<<< Medieval Dream Resources

Chris <a.christiaensen@pobox.ruu.nl> has located a variety of European sources and bibliographies which you may contact him directly to learn more about. The following is a sample of some of the unique dream-related material he has recently discovered.

A 30-page text - in the Dutch language - on dreaming in the middle ages Here's how to get there: You search Utrecht University and you will get a line: Zoeken op trefwoord (= seeking on key word) : Zoeken naar informatie binnen solis en op het internet. OR: U kunt in Solis zoeken....(= you can seek in Solis...) put in the word 'dreaming' and submit. You get a series of answers. Nr. 4 may be: http URL: droemde.html / host: iris.cc.ruu.nl / path: iris/iris1/publikaties/ LB/SCR/NED/1994/droemde.html

TITLE: ick droemde een wonderlyck dinc

AUTHOR: A. P. van HEERDE

st. nr. 8642338/ dec 1994

CONTENT:

1. introduction

2. the history of dreambooks

3. Avicienna's theory about dreaming and predictions

4. dreambooks in the middle ages

5. the antique dreambooks

5. the dream classification of Macrobius

5.2 the dreamtext of Bartholomeus Anglicus

5.3 comment on Bartholomeus

7. the lunaria

7.1 a comparison of two lunaria

II dreams in medieval Dutch fictional texts.

1. introduction

2.2 the dream(s) inJoncker Jan uwt den Vergiere

2.3 ...the Niebelungen lied (song)

2.4 ...the Roelants lied (song)

2.5 ...Floris ende Blancefloer

2.6 ...the Lancelot compilation

2.6.2 ... the Lanceloet

2.6.3 ... the Moriaen

2.6.4 ... the Queeste van den Grale

2.6.5 ... Walewein ende Keye

2.6.6 ... Arturs doet

2.6.7 ... Narcissus ende Echo

2.6.8 ... the Spiegel der Minnen

III. Conclusions and recommendations

- list of used literature

- finding places of dreams in Middle Dutch literature

E.g. : Emil Zola: 'Le rêve' /

Roger Ripert (one of the editors) gave me

D'Hervey de Saint-Denys I. 'Les rêves et les moyens de les diriger'Observations pratiques' II: 'Bibliographie, Correspondance familiale,l'oeuvre de l'onirologue & et du sinologue (two volumes. 390 FrenchFrancs together). (Editions Oniros BP 30, 93451 Ile Saint-Denis cedex).

A doctorate thesis (scriptie), about 100 pages, in the Dutch language, by Babette Hagedoren, on 'A vision (idea, thought) on dreams from (by) two seventeenth century writers, Van Beverwijck and Viverius. (Elk droomt daar af het meest, dat hy meest achtet) (Everybody dreams most about what he values most)

Student number 89082. July 1995.

http URL: droomt.htm

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CONTENT

introduction

H. I. Veenstra

H. II. analysis

1. something about medicine

2. Van Beverwijck

3. Veverius

H III. Conclusions

<<<<<Sex, Symbols & Dreams

http://www.galaxymall.com/retail/sun.man.moon/

"Sex, Symbols & Dreams" is a website exploring the recent book of the same name by author Janice Baylis. Learn how dream images associate to meanings in regards to the dreamer's health, money, job, relationships and creativity, as well as *sex as symbol* in dreams.

<<<<<Sleep and Dreams Research Web Site

http://ura1195-6.univ-lyon1.fr/home.html

Very nice bi-lingual (French-English) site on Sleep and Dreams research. Selections by Michel Jouvet and other researchers. Topics include psychological and philosophical aspects, genetical and phylogenical aspects, sleep-waking cycle, dreams, clinical aspects in adult, comas,children and newborn, books on sleep, Links to other neuroscience & sleep sites. Bibliographies, updates, more.

<<<<<Nocturnal Postings

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1159/

Nocturnal Postings is an electronic publication specializing in fiction. It focuses on, but does notnecessarily limit itself to, the hours between dusk and dawn; this might include stories written at night, works inspired by dreams, things involving the night as a central element to the work, etc.. The August Issue of Nocturnal Postings is out! This month's theme is relationships and dreams.

<<<<<<Dream Helpers

http://www3.nf.sympatico.ca/namaste/dhg.html

The Webs newest interactive Dream Site has arrived. Here you will find dreaming with a difference for we do more than share our Dreams, we dream for others. In the Dream Helper Web site we provide you with an opportunity to re-discover the powers of consciousness which lies dormant within your dreams. You will reconnect with those powers in a way that not only awakens your dreams to their full potential but gives you a new insight into the very meaningful role of how your dreams can serve others. Participate in one of the Dream Helper Ceremonys and you will be surprised at the boundless nformation revealed from within the subconscious.

The Dream Helpers Group is one of a number of dream groups located in the internet community, but their purpose is slighly different in that Dream Helpers exist primarily to dream for other members of their group. They dream for a member who seeks an answer to a problem, resolution to a concern, or guidance in his/her daily life. They focus their dream healing skills on that person without knowing the person's concern. It is an amazing processs , very healing and something you too can participate in. Why not check it oot?

<<<<<Richard Wilkerson New ASD WebMaster

Richard Wilkerson, one of our editors at Electric Dreams, is taking over for Jayne Gackenbach as Web- Maestro for the Association for the Study of Dreams website. Visit the site today at http://www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd/

<<<<< Dolfina Dreaming

http://www2.cruzio.com/~solyluna/dolfina.htm

If you're interested in lucid dreaming, and would like to interact with other lucid dreamers both online and in dreams, then Dolfina Dreaming may be right up your alley. Dolfina an acronym for Dreaming Of Lucid Freedom In America. Dolfina's Journal is an on-line journal of various stages of waking up from inside lucid dreams, including several dream scenes describing the modes of perceptual shifts in order to demonstrate modes of awareness and intention during the course of dreaming. Dolfina's intent is to create an interactive dreaming site where other dreamers can logon and work on their dream material in order to recognize cognitive shifts of their awareness. Other dreamers will be invited to email their dream content with the express permission to publish on-line the segments where Dolfina can point out perceptual shifts and point out elements where dream energy gets blocked and creates perceptual eddies of stagnant energy. Hopefully the site will serve to tutor dreamers who are pre-lucid and lucid, emphasizing techniques of lucid dreaming practice as a spiritual quest.

L A T E B R E A K I N G D R E A M N E W S

<<<<<An Evening with James Hillman - Dream Animals

The author of Dream and the Underworld, The Soul's Code and many other vital Archytypal psychology books presents a slide-screening and conversation with artist Margot McLean "...a charged collaboration that will change the way you think about dreams, souls, and the very real animals among us." --AmyTan

Why, as animals disappear from face of the earth are they appearing now in our dreams? Be ready to alter you view of the world, the imagination and the soul.

Thursday, September 18, King Middle School. 1781 Rose St. at Grant. North Berkeley. BART access 6 blocks away. 7:30pm

Advance tickets $10.00 for info, tickets, more 510-848-6767 x611

Sponsored by Chronicle Books, _The Express_ and KPFA Radio

<<<<< History of Dream Sharing - Class via Email returns!

When you have finished the class, you will have a grasp

of the whole history of dream work and be able to apply many of the techniques to your own dreams. About 20 e-mail lessons include the dream techniques of Freud, Jung, Adler, The Existential Phenomenology of Boss, Surrealism and dreaming, How dreamwork entered the United States and came out of the clinical settings to become a grassroots movement, Gestalt, the Dream and Bodywork, Mindel, Gendlin, contemporary dream workers, Delaney, Taylor, Ullman, dreams and religion, dream anthropology, lucid dreaming, dreaming and telepathy, mutual dreaming, the Senoi and much, much more. The classes are $10.00. You can still register via email and get into the September class.

For registration information send the following note:

"Richard, I'd love to be in the History of DreamSharing Class. Put me on the class list and send me the registration information!"

Send to rcwilk@aol.com

<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dream Show Changes On AOL

The Dream Show can be found by using the Keyword "Dream

Show" and it is located in the Astronet section. It will lead to a menu, and the dream show live will be the top choice on the menu. There is no direct entry keyword.

The Dream Show is on Tue-Thu at 9-10 AM Eastern.

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Sep 1-4 -- Carpinteria, CA

"Ancient Dreamings" -- Advanced applications of Dreamwork. For more information, contact Pacific Graduate Institute, 249 Lambert Road, Carpinteria, CA 93013. Phone: 805-969-3626. Fax: 805-565- 1932.

Sep 4-Dec 11 -- Berkeley, CA

Institute in Spirituality and Worship Dream Class with Jeremy Taylor. Thursdays from 1:30-3:30 pm. Contact Kathy at 415-454-2793 for more information.

Sep 6 - Dec 8 -- Berkeley, CA

Starr King School for the Ministry Dream Class with Jeremy Taylor, Mondays from 7:10-9:40 pm. Contact the Registrar for more information at 510-845-6232.

Sept. 9 - Nov. 4 -- Rohnert Park, CA.

"Introductory Dream Group" Alternate Tuesdays 7:30-9:30pm, (With option to continue as ongoing group.) $15/session, or $65 for whole series if paid by Sept. 9. Sharing, exploring, discussing, gestalting dreams in this safe confidential group. For more information or to reserve space: Hochima Denise Treppa, MFCC (707) 664-6607.

Sep 10 -- Monterey Bay, CA

Linda Lane Magallon will be the featured guest on KAZU radio Linda is the author of the newly published book "Mutual Dreaming." Tune in 7:00-8:00 pm, 90.3 fm

Sep 11- Oct 16,-- Marin, CA

Dream Groun, Thursdays 7-9:30 pm with Jeremy Taylor. Call Kathy to sign up, 415-454-2793.

Sep 12-14 -- Gainesville, FLA

Jeremy Taylor Dream Workshop. Contact Joan Stevens at 352-378-0886 for more information.

Sep 13 -- Hawaii Pacific University

"Dreams an Wholistic Healing", a one-day program sponsored by ASD. For further information, contact ASDreams@aol.com

Sep 13 -- Palo Alto, CA

"Your Dream Maker As Spiritual Guide" with Dr. Hellevi Ruumet,. 10:00am-4:00pm. $55.00 For more information, contact Pate Luce at 408- 270-0116, email: beamo@aol.com

Sep 14, 21, 28 -- Mountain View, CA

Intuitive Watercolor Painting with Susan St. Thomas M.A. East West Gallery/Conference Center in Mountain View. For information and a materials list, contact Susan at 415 647-5245 or sstmandala@telis.org or call East West to register. $85 for the series.

Sep 15 - Dec 9 -- Oakland, CA

School of Applied Theology Dream Class with Jeremy Taylor. Four meetings. Contact Frank Nieman at 510-652-1651 for more information.

Sept 19 -- Bethesda MD

Small Press Expo at the Holiday Inn. Jesse Reklaw will be presenting Concave Up, the illustrated dream anthology. Drop by and have your dream sketched! Contact Jesse Reklaw reklaw@nonDairy.com for more information or visit the Concave Up website at http://www.nonDairy.com/slow/wave.cgi

Sep 19 -- Cupertino, CA

All Day Workshop with Jeremy Taylor at the Center for Gerontology, Spirituality and Fiath. Contact Julie Barton at 408-968-8028 for more information.

Sep 20 -- Santa Cruz, CA

Dreams and Dreamwork with Christine Boyer from 10:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. Information about cost and location can be received by calling Santa Cruz Parks & Recreation Department at (408) 429-3663.

Sept 24 - Nov 12 -- San Anselmo, CA

"Dreaming as a Spiritual Practice", an 8-week workshop devoted to exploring the spiritual dimensions of dreaming conducted by Kelly Bulkeley. The workshop is open to people from all different spiritual and religious perspectives. Call Joan Currey at 415-258-6583 for more information.

Sep 24-Dec 3 -- Oakland, CA

University of Creation Spirituality Dream Class with Jeremy Taylor, Wednesdays from 7-10 pm. Contact Marlene DeNardo at 510-835-4827 for more information.

Oct 3-4 -- Concord, MA

"Preception, Dreaming & Reality", a workshop with Sparrow Hart at The Dreamwheel, 9:30am-5:00pm. For more information, contact The Dreamwheel, 191 Sudbury Road, Concord, MA 01742-3423. Telephone 508-369-2634. Email Dreamwheel@compuserve.com

Oct 3-5 -- Kelowna, BC, Canada

Dream Workshop with Jeremy Taylor. Contact Brenda Jackson at 250-717-3978 for more information.

Oct 10-12 -- Aspen, CO

Dream Workshop with Jeremy Taylor. Contact Barbie Seidel at 970-925-3421 for more information.

Oct. 15 - 19 -- Camp Gualala, CA.

"Night Passages of the Soul: Exploring our Dreams" is one of many exciting workshops at this women's week long retreat, Womanspirit. For more information on Womanspirit phone SRCRS at (707) 546-4543. For information about this specific workshop, contact: Hochima Denise Treppa, MFCC (707) 664-6607.

Oct 17-19 -- Arlington, VA

Dream Workshop with Jeremy Taylor. Contact Cathy Shepherd at 770-434-3999 for more information.

Oct 21-Nov 25, San Francisco, CA

Dream Group with Jeremy Taylor at Unitarian Church. Contact Joan Phelan at 415-863-8414 for more information.

== D R E A M S S E C T I O N == ED V4 N8 ==

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D R E A M S SECTION INDEX BY BOB K. (For ED V4N8)

Hi there! Welcome to ELECTRIC DREAMS - DREAMS SECTION for

Vol. 4 Number 8.

Highlights from this issue: Computer Dreams galore - from hardware to software, from e-mail to the Internet, even Bill Gates makes an appearance as computer related images are incorporated into our dreams. A recipe is applied to an Oven dream by B.A.Baker ;), a Shark attack is undergone and examined,

journeys, escapes, crashes, repetitive dreams and a precognitive Jerry Garcia dream are among the many others shared this issue. Enjoy this episode of our continuing explorations into Dreamland.

THANKS

FEEDBACK FROM THE DREAMERS

COMMENTARY ON DREAMS FROM PREVIOUS ISSUES

= Commentary by Heratheta on "Mama's Dream Advice" (970808) =

NEW DREAMS:

PRECOGNITIVE/FUTURE DREAMS [Stories from past experiences, or send them in before it happens, if you can]

* Dream: "pre-cognition - fat man rocks" by Kelly (970731) *

REPETITIVE DREAMS [Significant by nature]

* Dream: "Jelly Ghost" by Sandi'e (970806) *

* Dream: Nightmares and Videos - Jermey (970802) *

* Dream: "The Emergency that Wasn't" by Sandi (970818) *

DREAM TRACES IN WAKING LIFE [The effects of external stimuli on our dreams or is it the other way around - our dreams leaving a trace on our physical reality?]

DEFYING CLASSIFICATION [Your stumpers may not be so mysterious to others]

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LINKS TO STAGES OF LIFE

BIRTH [Starts]

CHILDHOOD [Early development]

ADOLESCENCE [Maturing, testing]

ADULTHOOD [The main event for most]

* Dream: White Wedding by K.C. (970719) *

= Commentary by Heratheta on "White Wedding" (970805) =

* Dream: "The Oven" by B. A. Baker (970807) *

OLD AGE [Wisdom, Approaching the Journeys end]

DEATH [Endings]

* Dream: 'Dream Stocker' (or Dream Stalker ??) by Apple 970730) *

* Dream: "Sharks!" by Melanie (970811) *

= Commentary by Heratheta on Sea Dream (970808) =

= Commentary by Cathy on "Sharks!" (970812) =

= Commentary by Myst on "Sharks!" by Melanie (970813) =

COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD [Beyond our terrestrial limits]

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AGGRESSION [By us or against us- crossing others paths]

ALIENS [Visitors or visited - creatures from other dimensions]

ANGELS [Visitors from Spiritual dimensions]

ANIMALS [Basic Instincts]

[This month brings us: Sharks - in a symbol rich dream under STAGES OF LIFE: DEATH, lions, Cats, birds and ... ]

BATHROOMS [Maintenance, Cleansing and Elimination]

BELONGING [What we are associated with or wish we were]

BRIDGES [How we get across an obstacle or go from here to there]

CELEBRITIES [The well known - famous and infamous]

CLOTHING [What we wear tells us about ourselves and the events we participate in]

COMMUNICATIONS [From telepathic to devices to signs & symbols]

COMPUTERS [Extensions of our minds, mind tools, communication]

* Dream: "PAPER ROLL" by Ruben Fjordmann (970805) *

= Commentary on "Paper Roll Dream" by DreamBat (970805) =

* Dream: Visit from Bill Gates by DreamBat (970813) *

* Dream: "Dream Waiting" by Nutcracker (950621) *

* Dream: "Fancy Meeting You Here" by Nutcracker (950721) *

* Dream: "Internet Form" by Nutcracker (952711) *

* Dream: "Free Time" by Nutcracker (951227) *

* Dream: "Computers: The Death Of Us All" by Nutcracker(960112) *

* Dream: "The Internet Lottery" by Nutcracker (960116)*

* Dream: "My Turn To Teach Mom" by Nutcracker (960119) *

* Dream: "Attack of The Killer E-Mail" by Nutcracker (960127) *

* Dream: "Computer Frustration" by Nutcracker (960605) *

* Dream: "The Frog Page" by Nutcracker (960614) *

* Dream: "Just Like Magic" by Nutcracker (960629) *

* Dream: "No More Reading PC Mag Before Bedtime" by Nutcracker (960916) *

* Dream: "Anonymity" by Nutcracker (960916) *

* Dream: "Only In My Dreams - Pt 1" by Nutcracker (961023) *

* Dream: "Only In My Dreams - Pt 2" by Nutcracker (961113) *

* Dream: "Movie Listings" by Nutcracker (961122) *

* Dream: "Mis-Filed" by Nutcracker (961212) *

* Dream: "Download Failure - Part 1" by Nutcracker (961230) *

* Dream: "TMI: Too Much Information" by Nutcracker (961231) *

* Dream: "Computer del Sol" by Nutcracker (970111) *

* Dream: "Sam's Discount City" by Nutcracker (97970124) *

* Dream: "Download Failure - Part 2" by Nutcracker (970202) *

* Dream: "Border Patrol" by Nutcracker (970213) *

* Dream: "Eerie Specter" by Nutcracker (970213) *

* Dream: "My New Office" by Nutcracker (960322) *

* Dream: "Newsgroup Friends" by Nutcracker (970331) *

* Dream: "Hard Drive" by Nutcracker (970403) *

* Dream: "R.I.P." by Nutcracker (970415) *

* Dream: "E-Mail Barrage" by Nutcracker ((70503) *

* Dream: "Net Talk Live" by Nutcracker (970522) *

* Dream: "The Company We Keep" by Nutcracker (970604) *

* Dream: "Graffiti Artist" by Nutcracker (970518) *

* Dream: "Web Page Design" by Nutcracker (970711) *

CULTS [Somewhere out there ...]

DIRECTIONS [Ever stop and ask for directions? North, South, East, West, up, down, ahead, behind, straight, turn, right, left, make a circle, cross, go through, open, close, mix, add, boil, cook, simmer, but most of all - follow these instructions carefully...and don't be shy about asking someone else down the path, except, of course, for the Big Bad Wolf!!!]

= Commentary by Richard on Dream Directions (970807) =

* Dream: "LONG ISLAND SOUND" by Heratheta (970808) *

DISCOVERY [New insights and unexpected developments]

DREAMING [Dreams about dreaming]

* Dream: "Time Traveler" by Nutcracker (970517) *

* Dream: "Dream Meeting" by M (970707) *

DRUGS [Healing or Hurting?]

EATING [Getting nourishment for maintenance, growth and pleasure]

*Dream: "Beanie Babies" by Nutcracker (970510) *

ELEVATORS [Going UP or DOWN - Push the right button or else...]

ESCAPE [Get me outta here!!!]

* Dream: "Evil Helen" by Nutcracker (970513) *

* Dream: "Gargoyles" by Nutcracker (970504) *

* Dream: "On The Run" by Nutcracker (970508) *

FEAR [What scares us]

(MAD ABOUT YOU's HELEN HUNT ???? see EVIL HELEN in ESCAPE)

FOOD [The source of our physical nourishment]

FLYING [Confidence, Power, Freedom & Perspective]

GIFTS [Offerings to or from others]

HOBBIES [Our interests and desires]- COLLECTING THINGS

HOLIDAYS

HOSPITAL [A place for treatment, healing and repair]

* Dream: "The Shaman" by Nutcracker (970502) *

* Dream: "The Forbidden Room" by Nutcracker (970525) *

HOUSE [Where our lives take place]

* Dream: "A New Den" by DreamBat (970822) *

HOTELS [Temporary Dwelling or Special Event location]

JOURNEYS [Missions away from our home base -explorations]

* Dream: "The One That Got Away" by Nutcracker (970523) *

* Dream: "Exposed" by Nutcracker (970514) *

* Dream: "Chartres" by Nutcracker (970513) *

LOST [Disorientation or abandonment]

LOTTERY DREAMS [Sudden Wealth - Randomness favors the dreamer]

LOVE [All around us, yet so hard to find and keep]

LUCID DREAMING [Knowing you are Dreaming when you are Dreaming]

* Dream: Lucid Dream- by SethW (970813) *

MEMORY [Remembering ...In dreams we often struggle with the issue of memories and remembering a dream which by definition involves the process of recollection.]

MIRRORS [Reflection of Self]

MUSIC [Melodies of the land within]

NUDITY [What you see is what you get]

PERFORMERS [Entertainers]

PROBLEMS [Situations or difficulties sometimes present choices]

* Dream: "WRITHING WOMEN" by TheresaA (970730) *

= Commentary by Bob K. On "WRITHING WOMEN"

POLITICAL SCENE [Public issues through positions of power]

RELATIONSHIPS [Other parts of ourselves including family which constitutes the first and earliest of our relationships, often influencing how we relate to the outside world]

* Dream: "Custody Fight" by Nutcracker (970527) *

RELIGIOUS RELATED [The Ritual and the Spiritual]

ROMANCE [Thrills and Chills, lost in