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E L E C T R I C    D R E A M S

Volume 4 Issue #5

26 May 1997

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C O N T E N T S

++ Editor's Notes

Hello to Asheville Conference Goers!

++ Help out Electric Dreams -

++ The Spinning Wheel: Dream Wheel Update

Chris Hicks

++ Dream Airing Column - Victoria Quinton

- Mutual Dreaming - Now in the Stores!

- Hypertext version of ED anyone?

- Anyone know the Springfield Hotline?

++ Column - Dream Trek Goodbye Group Mind

Linda Magallon

++ Forum: Postmodern Dreaming - An Introduction

Richard Wilkerson

++ Graduate Education in Dream Studies

Mena Potts, Ph.D.

++ Column: Life, Art Dream : Bones

Alissa Goldring

++ Interview: with D.R.E.A.M.S. Foundation Director

and Lucid Paddling Adventure Trip Guide: Craig Webb

++ Madame Aionia's Astrological Dreaming Series:

Dreaming Through the Houses: 5th House

++ Some Fifth House Rooms...by Island

++ Fourth House Dreaming... by Island

++ Osanna Wisdom Online - Dream Network Journal



G L O B A L D R E A M I N G N E W S - Peggy Coats

THIS MONTH'S FEATURES:

NEWS

- ASD Conference Update

- Lucid/Mutual Dream-In, June 21/22, 1997

- ASD Encourages Regional Meetings and Co-Sponsored Events

- Explore the Dreamtime with Dream Reentry

- Dreams: Resources for Healing and Guidance

- DreamSpinner -- Software that Integrates the Analytical and the Intuitive

- Intuition Network Presents Its Fifth Conference, August 1997

- Dreaming as a Spiritual Practice

- Film Review: James and the Giant Peach



RESEARCH & REQUESTS

- Children's Dreams and Trauma

- Dreams and Deja Vu -- Help Needed

- Telepathic and Precognitive Dreams



WEB SITE UPDATES

- New Oniros Club Website and IRC

- Dreams and Postmodernity Update

- Dream Cloud -- A Creative Dream Website and Project

- Dreams can make you Rich

- Cyber-Dream Library Update

- Visit The Wanderer

- Intuitive Adventures in Surrealism and Dreaming

DREAM CALENDAR: June-July 1997



ELECTRIC DREAMS - DREAMS SECTION - Bob Krumhansl

Highlights from this issue: Death dreams - A death Sentence and a realization of lifelessness; A toothless dream from Seattle - Is there a match in New York?; A Hill Street Journey through the West coast & into an otherworldly barnful of animals aware of an impending earthquake & through another dream; Meet a magical Tornado-Maker - one of the sources of all those fear provoking dreams; In Relationship dreams, we ponder how a Daddy-Long Legs is like a Daddy?; A special contribution under Writing and Writers outlines an approach to dreams, a "precognition" of sorts, and features Allen Ginsberg. All kinds of animals and bodies of water appear in this issue. Enjoy!



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Editors' Notes

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A warm welcome to all new & old subscribers and ASD Asheville conference attendees!

At last year's ASD dream conference in Berkeley, the Electric Dreams community provided a wide spectrum of support for the first ASD conference with a Computer and Internet Track. This year we can help out by stopping by and participating in online activities. Stop by the ASD Web Site for more information. www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd/

More ASD updates. (Association for the Study of Dreams). Please read Peggy Coats' Global Dreaming News for information on the Asheville conference and beyond. The GD news also includes a wide variety of dream events, both online and off, including workshops, retreats, seminars, lectures, web sites, and more.

A note on the online Dream Groups, the ED DreamWheels. We have a new subscription procedure that has one extra step. Simply return the verification notice that will be sent to you per instructions that will be included. Read the details in Chris Hick's DreamWheel Update.

Linda Magallon has a spectrum of offerings this month. Here book, _Mutual Dreaming_ is now on the book stands and there are interactive projects that relate to this work in which you can participate. See the details the GD news under lucid mutual dream-in. Linda continues her Dream Trek column this month by critically examining the group mind and offering a partnership paradigm as an alternative to loss of individuality in the collective field of relations.

Charles Mcphee finishes his chapter summaries of _Stop Sleeping Through Your Dreams_, a lucid account of consciousness during sleep. Many thanks for the last 6 months he has been with us.

We have an interview this month with Craig Webb, director of the D.R.E.A.M.S. Intitute and creative dreamer extraordinare. If there an event in dreams and dreaming that will someday be significant, you can bet that Craig is somehow involved.

Have you ever walked through a forest with a quiet mind?

Alissa Goldring, though mixed media will teach you how to walk through a dream with a quiet mind. Be sure to read her column selection this month "Bones" and stop by her site to see the related graphics.

Topics in Dreamwork this month promised "Phenomenology and Dreaming", but due to lack of space we are taking a "Spring Break" and will return next month. If you can't wait until next month for this information, drop me a line and I'll send you a copy of the article.

But don't think education is a low priority here! I am re-printing an ASD DreamTime newsletter article by Mena Potts on the project to actually have a Doctoral Program in Dreams and Dreaming! Be sure to read the article "Graduate Program in Dream Studies". After including this article I had an old school dream that I was on my way to the last class and hadn't been half the semester, which, among other things, indicated to me that there is always more to learn.

Also, I would like to direct your attention to my ASD Dreamtime article on Dreams and Spirituality online. If you don't get ASD's DreamTime, be sure to join up and get not only 4 DreamTime issues, but 4 Dreaming Journals each year as well. The Dream Time Newsletter "Spirituality, Dreams and the Internet" article is also online at www.dreamgate.com/dream/cyberphile/

Note: There are *3* DreamTime dream newsletters out, the ASD newsletter, the BADG newsletter and a financial forecast using dreams newsletter. Be sure to check the context to know which DreamTime is which.

I'm starting a new and not-so-regular forum in Electric Dreams called "Postmodern Dreaming". In a sense, all of Electric Dreams and our Cyberspace projects are part of Postmodern dreaming, filled with new ideas on identity, communication, power structures, representations and presentations, language and dreams, reason and irrationality, and indeterminable authors and histories. In the pomo section I will be focusing on bringing the American Pragmatic aspects of the Postmodern (as in the development of the Internet) in contact with the mostly French inspired post-structural & postmodern theories thinks like Jaques Lacan, Slavoj Zisek, Alphonso Lingis, Michel Foucault, Deleuze and Guattari, Baudrillard, Lyotard and others. This will be a kind of online experiment in fusing dream sharing, the Internet and theory and I encourage you to submit articles and ideas for projects for the section.

Our attempts to bring astrological houses and dreaming together continue with three articles this month. M. Aionia gives a general layout of the fifth house, psyche and dreams, and then Island opens up a number of imaginal rooms in the House that truly sound the depths of this approach. For those of you collecting these houses and dream articles, Island has also provided an additional article on the Forth House and dreams.

Well, ok, it wasn't an additional article, I simple didn't get it in the last issue where it was suppose to be. However, these articles, along with all other ED articles, are now available and collected together for your ease of access at

www.dreamgate.com/dream/library

Select "Articles"

As always, I'd like to invite all new and old ED subscribers to join in the ED community at any place where you like. While some of our mail lists, like ed-core@igc.apc.org, sound exclusive, they are really open to everyone. For more information on participation and ED regular activities and projects, see the "Help Out Electric Dreams" section.

For an summary of the wonderful dreams and comments, see Bob Krumhansl's editorial and summary section below in the Dream Section.

Dreamin' up a Storm,

-Richard



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Help out Electric Dreams -

Be an Electric Dreamer!

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Electric Dreams continues to offer a wide variety of free dreamsharing venues and this means we log a lot of online time. It is fun and we do this because we love it! But sometimes we can't keep up with all the networking tasks and then the quality is diminished in our programs.

And not everyone has the time to be a staff member (though if you *do* have the time and desire, drop me a line!).

And so we would like to ask for ELECTRIC DREAMERS - volunteers who can give just a few minutes every week or even once a month. Here are some of the ED areas that Electric Dreamers might help in:

- Co-Moderate a dream group.

- Start a column on ED about your favorite topic in dreams.

- Post a few dreams to a few Newsgroups or Mail lists.

- Post an ad regularly to a Newsgroup you will "sponsor".

- Post an ad to a mail list you will "sponsor".

- Post an ad to a SIG at your commercial online carrier.

- Surf the net for new dream web sites.

- Surf Educational college sites for dream bibliographies

- Send in addresses of magazine departments that might like to carry a story about dream sharing in cyberspace

- Send in local resources on dreams - groups, schools, lectures, library resources, newsletters and new age papers.

- Check you Yellow Pages for schools and ask what programs or classes on dreams and dreaming dreams are available.

- Many other projects available!

Be and Electric Dreamer, sign up today...

Note: If you have offered your time before and I haven't gotten back to you, it is only because I've lost your request. Please resend!!

contact Richard Wilkerson

rcwilk@aol.com





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The Spinning Wheel: Dream Wheel Update

by Chris Hicks

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Note: the IGC/DreamGate mail list dream-on@igc.apc.org

has changed. We used to sign on by simply sending a note

To: majordomo@igc.apc.org

And in the body of the email putting:

subscribe dream-on

And you still do this to sign on to the dream groups, but there is ONE ADDITIONAL STEP. After subscribing, you will get a note from the majordomo that *has to be returned* to verify your subscription. I know this is a chore, but it saves the list from attacks of unwanted visitors, junk mail and other problems. Thanks for your understanding - List Manager, rwilkerson@igc.apc.org

Chris here and the new dream group will begin soon. There are new opportunities for people to join us. So, send your requests to join to me, Chris at: dreamwheel@michweb.net, today!

The WWW groups have been slow to take off due to some technical problems, but things are looking up with the new WWW Bulletin Board format! The new format will eliminate the long lag times between submitting questions/answers/comments and seeing them up at the Dream Lynx site. In addition, there are some "neato" things in the works for further smoothing things out for the WWW Dream Wheels! If you haven't seen the WWW Dream Wheels, or haven't seen them lately check us out at:

http://www.iag.net/~hutchib/.dream

Click on "Wheel" from the main menu. Please note that the current postings, although real dreams, are serving to test the new system. You are free to post questions as you normally would for a Dream Wheel group. Please disregard the instruction messages as they are out dated.

The small un-moderated groups continue to move along. There seems to be a core of a few groups that have stuck together since they were first started some months ago.

If you would like to submit a dream(s) for either the E-mail or WWW Dream Wheel groups please email it to me, Chris at:

dreamwheel@michweb.net

Please include a short title for all submitted dreams and the pen name you would like to use in the group.

For more information about the Dream Wheel groups, including their history, and a description of the "If it were my dream" technique go to:

http://users.michweb.net/~chrish/dw.html



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Dream Airing Column - Victoria Quinton

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Do you have questions, answers, comments, replies? This is your column to communicate with the rest of the Electric Dream Community, so just send those email to me at mermaid@alphalink.com.au






Mutual Dreaming

When Two or More People Share The Same Dream

By Linda Lane Magallon

In Bookstores Now!!

New York: Pocket Books, 1997

ISBN: 0-671-52684-7

$12.00 U.S./$16.00 Canada

There is no experience as uniquely intimate as having a dream with another person. Incredible, but very real, the phenomenon of sharing the same dream with one or more people is much more common than we might think--and also extremely revealing about the way the subconscious works and sends us its messages.

_Mutual Dreaming_ leads us on an astonishing voyage of discovery. With dozens of extraordinary anecdotes and true-life stories, we'll find that mutual dreams can take any form--from erotic dreams, to terrifying nightmares to dreams of mystifying encounters with strangers. We will learn how to recognize and understand, decode and gain insight from mutual dreams. We can even learn how to incubate mutual dreams with another person--or more than one person.

Linda Lane Magallon has invested more than a decade of field research in the area of mutual dreaming. Now an internationally know authority on the subject, she has been socially active in the dreamwork community since 1984. Her accomplishments include membership on the founding board of the multidisciplinary Association for the Study of Dreams, co-founding the regional Bay Area Dreamworkers Group and serving as publisher of the foremost dream community journal, _Dream Network_. Ms. Magallon also makes presentations on the topic of mutual dreaming to international audiences, and regularly conducts dream projects that emphasize group participation. She lives in the San Francisco Bay Area.






Richard,

I been reading the ED for a while now and find portion of great interest to me but some of the stuff may even be objectionable (however mildly.) I am a lucid dreamer. May I make a suggestion? If it were possible to have a table of contents with hyper text or something like that so that an individual could skip uninteresting stuff and go directly to points of interest. This will save a lot of time and frustrations for me and others. I enjoy reading the ED and wish to encourage your continued effort in publishing it.

LC

Hi LC, great idea. Anyone want to do this for us each month? If you can post that copy on a web site, even better! If not, I will offer space at DreamGate. - Richard








Dream Hoteline in Springfield MO: Does anyone have info on this?

Send to rcwilk@aol.com (from an AP wire)

"About 100 people will take phone calls at the college's main campus in Windyville and 14 satellite campuses in seven states - Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma, and Texas.

The so-called dream interpreters help callers decode their dreams' symbols and what they might mean, but don't offer counseling. And Clark said a dream's significance must be determined by the dreamer.

``The dreams are in symbols and they tell you about your attitudes,'' she said. ``They are not telling you about the literal events in your life.''








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DREAM TREK

By Linda Lane Magallon

Goodbye Group Mind

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When it comes to the macroview of dreaming, a commonly held concept is that of the collective unconscious or group mind. As Douglas Whitcher describes it, "each individual is like the individual polyp organism of a coral reef, the compound coral reef being a single organism. The revelations we each receive which challenge us and compel us onward are like so many nervous messages sent to different cells of the body in order that it may function in coordination. "

Now, in a way, psychic and group dreaming research seems to second this notion. Psychoanalyst Jule Eisenbud stated, "The goals psi serves are primarily not those of the individual at all, but of an ascending hierarchy of interrelated systems." And Henry Reed found that separate sleeping reports from a group dreaming project are akin to the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. Furthermore, the homogenous flavor of the classic mutual meshing dream seems to support the picture that we are all part of one uniform mind mush.

The problem with this "group mind" idea is that despite the use of the word "individual," the particular dreamers are rarely honored. Instead, it is the theme or archetype or dream imagery which holds center stage. Indeed, Whitcher says, "Dream-fantasy is assumed to hold the truth".

At the threat of being melted into the homogenous mesh of imagery, the individual ego objects...and the objection can be noted in the dreams! As Reed has discovered, the group dreams of his 1976-1978 Sundance Community Dream Journal project asked the questions, "Who am I?" and "Who are we?" Since before 1984, dreams in the mutual dreaming projects of Jean Campbell, Barbara Shor and I displayed the same concerns. I'm talking about the dream egos speaking through nonlucid dreams.

The ideal of "oneness" is highly regarded in the dreaming community as an ultimate spiritual goal. And the dreaming egos, the dreaming selves, being citizens of a mutuable reality, are quite capable of blending and melding. Just as they are capable of being separate and distinct. These are the extremes of their behavior. The "either/or" dichotomistic view of the universe, which is our heritage from the Age of Pisces, would have us choose sides and decide which is the most true or valuable.

But the partnership paradigm offers a "both/and" solution. At the brink of the Aquarian Age, that's the experiment and experience that the dreaming selves are trying on for size. The evidence from both group and mutual dreaming projects points to the reality of highly individualistic dreams and dreamers, who are nonetheless able to communicate and cooperate towards a common goal.

Seen together, the picture that the dreams of the partnership paradigm paint is less like a bowl of numinous mush and more like a variegated fabric or mural with multiple styles. To use cyber-analogy, we are not "a bunch of dumb terminals connected to Big Brother, the mainframe." The partnership paradigm supports the picture of "personal computers linked in networks" instead.

Whitcher, D."Some Reflections on Dream Group," Coat of Many Colors/Dream Network Bulletin, Mar, 1983. pp. 101-102.

Magallon, L.L. Mutual Dreaming. NY: Pocket Books, 1997.

CaseyFlyer@aol.com







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Postmodern Dreaming

An Introduction

Richard Catlett Wilkerson

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"Each time you say what a dream means , you get your face slapped" James Hillman



o Preamble



There has been a growing suspicion and critique of Reason and Rationality in the last century that was pre-figured with the Romantics, given its first technique of investigation with ideas of the unconscious and then fearfully brought into the mainstream culture with the advent of the atomic bomb. The cold war kept us in America believing it was only the Communist who were irrational and needed to be controlled and contained. By the end of the 1960's the rational policies of containment, mutually assured destruction and the cold war were exposed as paranoid delusions. The peace movement, grassroots coalition, novel social contacts, psychotherapies and ecologically minded living offered contact with a productive irrationality. Some felt we just matured in our ideas of what is rational, but others began seeing rationality itself as the culprit.

The pragmatic critique of the Modern World has continued in the America and produced fabulous responses in architecture (i.e. insides of building found on the outside), politics (i.e. grassroots movements) , law (i.e. extreme reform), therapy(i.e. contact with irrational), science (i.e. chaos theory) and alternative culture( i.e. cyberspace). In Europe, the critique has been more intellectual and has produced an even wide variety of social, philosophical, literary and political responses. Generally these critiques, responses and new productions are often called "Postmodern", "Postmodernity" and "Postmoderism", but I want to note that there is no one movement or set of ideas that contain the postmodern. Many would argue that it has nothing to do with the move from rational to irrational.

In this month's Postmodern Dreaming column I would like to give a quick general introduction to the postmodern and how it differs from the Modern and suggest what it might have to do with dreams and dreaming. Later articles will then wander organically, if not randomly, through the Postmodern ideas, reading them together with dreams and dreaming ideas in hopes of producing new concepts, ideas and practices that might enrich both. References and suggestions for other texts and articles are highly recommended for a more complete introduction.

o Forward into the Past

It has been of interest to me for some time that there are a great many parallels between the history of the interpretation of literature/poetry/texts and the history of the interpretation of dreams. Like dreams, early sacred texts were seen as sacred and messages from the gods. While this view continues even today, new streams formed and diverged. The author's intention, what the author meant to say, was seen as important. Others began to view the text separately from the author and saw the meaning resting in the reader's response. Others found the meaning by looking closely at the structure and context of the text, seeking both the archetypal and social forces at play. This sequence follows quite closely the ways of interpreting dreams.

By the 1960's it seemed that all the ways of interpreting a text had been played out and there was nothing much left to do but catagorize these elements. Then a post-modern revolution occurred. Some anticipated it coming. In dreaming Jung, and later James Hillman, began talking about something irrational in the dream image that needed to be encountered to avoid getting stuck in dead categories. They knew that only a break with old patterns offered new pathways. And they knew that archetypes were not just stereotypes. Encounters with the numinous core could strip away old neurosis and open the door to the unrealized. Had the postmodern revolution occurred first in Switzerland, it may have been very different.

In France psychoanalysis was slow to take hold, being seen as a German Project in the irrational. The French considered themselves as coming from the rational tradition of Rousseau. By 1940s and 1950 things began to shift. The Literary Left tended towards Marxism and the structuralist projects of Levi-Strauss in anthropology and Jacques Lacan in psychoanalysis had taken shape. In 1968 the country (France) was temporarily shut down by a country wide walk-off of workers and students, backed by the French-Marxist who were at the time denied any political power. But within days the Marxist representatives had traded most of their political positions for government positions and the country was up and running, except for the intellectual Left who felt betrayed and now drifted away from Marxism. It was clear that even the most radical of political groups could be tamed and dominated by the seduction of power. Perhaps, it was thought, that organization itself if the culprit. In literature, philosophy, critical theory, linguistics, psychology, leftist politics and art a radical departure from the values of the past was in the making. This departure was so powerful that a lecture by Jacques Derrida in America in the 1960's lead to a widespread movement of American Deconstruction in literature, philosophy and law. But the intellectual aspects of the movement remained in America mostly in academic, and it wasn't until the advent of the Net that the ideas became more widely disseminated.

The implications for interpretation, of dreams and text, as well as politics, religion, recreation, sex, identity, psychology, play and other social practices are so strange and uncanny that Americans have barely begun to grasp their theoretical implications and significance. This may, as some suggest, be because we already act out so many of the postmodern paradigms anyway, even if without the intellectual baggage. We tend to *make* and *do* things in America. Again, the Internet may be *the* postmodern expression, with emphasis on dissemination, multiple identities, unrecoverable authors, multiple levels of meaning, social practices crossing boundaries and categories once thought to be in-violate, the championing of the particular, organic-order, non-hierarchical, non-human, fluid, linguistic, textual and graphical, and metamorphic.

How like the dream. And here I hope to read dreams through the lens created by postmodern writers. The purpose is not to break down the illusions of the past views in hopes of recovering some hidden truth. Rather the hope is more that these lenses (themselves fictions) we will use for temporary viewing, will move us towards fictions we find more significant, more meaningful, or even to those categories beyond meaning and significance that cannot be named. To move not towards the dream, as if it would finally open up and reveal its secrets, but with the dream, as a co-player in the creation of the improvisational universe that lives between reality and fiction.

I would recommend having one or more dreams at hand as you read through the history I have presented below on dreams and the postmodern. How does each approach change your relationship with the dream image? What does each approach offer or promise? What does each approach tell you about *what* you are interpreting when you do dreamwork? What does each approach say about who the author of the dream might be, and what the author's intentions are? Who is the reader? How much of these questions and answers are dependent on the language we are using?



o The History of the Interpretive Response

There is a correspondence, or at least, strong parallels between the history of literary interpretation and the interpretation of dreams.

The earliest writings include the recording of dreams and their interpretations in Sumerian cuneiform tablets. In these writings, it is assumed that the author of the dream is a god and the the dream is a message to the dreamer. The dreamer, like many a scribe, are seem merely as conduits of the divine or demonic.

And the study of the interpretation of sacred texts, hermeneutics (HERmenOOtiks) which originally referred to theories of biblical interpretations, later came to refer to the theory of interpretation in general. The center of hermeneutics is the belief that the text contains a stable meaning that can be determined and possibly recovered. This was first extended from religious texts to legal, historical, bibliographic and literary texts, but by the 19th Century had been extended to all works in the humanities and social sciences. From this emerged the idea of what is now called "Authorial Intention". Here, the meaning of the text has to do with the author's attempt to use commonly know language to produce a meaning. The recovery of the meaning is found in forming a hypothesis about the author's meaning and attempting to confirm or invalidate this by continual reference to the text.

In Psychoanalysis, the true meaning of the dream text was arrived at by a close reading as well. Results of Free association we added to the patients clinical material and historical background to discover the true meaning of the dream, the true unconscious intentions.

These ideas carried on into the middle of the 20th Century.

By the 1940's an 50's, this interpretive text approach was giving way to New Criticism. There was a shift from history and content to form. At the heart of this approach was the autonomous *image* in the text, independent of the author. The image, such as a poem, could now be analyzed at several levels, the particular image (or poetic line), the genre, or the place in literature in general. The old focus on the intentions of the author were seen now as guilty of committing the "intentional fallacy"(Wimsatt & Beardsley 1954) which sees the appeal to an author's designs as irrelevant to the autonomous structure of a text. Who can really know the author's intention? Perhaps even the author him/herself may not really understand the motives and intentions that went into text.

Conflicts and resolutions in the text were seen as the guiding path into the texts, with the focus on coherence and internal tension. Universal collective patterns were found, and as Kugler (1987) has noted, this literary style reflects more Jung's approach to dreams. The focus on image patterns, the move to deeper collective themes, the discovery of paradox and reconciliation, and the ultimate belief in the coherence and unity of the psyche were as important to Jung as the New Critics.

Now all these style have been called into question. Not only authorial intention, but the texts unity, autonomy and ability to reveal some referential truth have been seriously questioned. The first new trend to emerge out of all this doubt was called Structuralism.



o Structuralism

Structuralism is a complex intellectual movement that became important in France about 1950, and included such works as that of anthropologist Claude Levi-Strauss, Literary Critic Roland Barthes and psychoanalyist Jacques Lacan. By the 1970's there influence was considerable in England and the United States. The roots of Structuralism are diverse, but usually traced to the Swiss linguist, Ferdinand de Saussure (1857-1913) and his theory of language as based on a system of internal differences rather than in resemblances to objects in the material world.

- Signifier - The acoustic sound or material written word

Sign =

- Signified - The concept to which the signifier refers.



Language, and thus the text and dreams made up of language, are seen as closed, culture bound systems. This new science of linguistics , Semiology, would study all of the signs that make up a culture, their nature, their laws. A key to understanding this systems approach is the idea of words or signs as having both a signifier and a signified. The signifier is the word itself, like "tree". The signifier is seen as arbitrary. I could have used arbre in French, dendro in Greek , silvus in Latin. Or "tree" in English might have not ended up as "tree" but rather "oglot" and we would have all gotten by just fine. And know when someone says "tree" it is "tree" because the way it sounds is *different* than "me", "free", "treat" and so on. Thus the material acoustic sound "tree" is unique because it is surrounded by a whole system of differences. Try describing any object-word in your room, a desk, a chair, a door, without referring to how it is different from another object and you will quickly see how difference plays an essential key.

Now each word or sign also points to something beyond itself. In normal usage we talk about what the word refers to, a particular tree in material reality. But as a sign, it also points to a concept, (as in the concept of "trees") and this is called by Saussure the "signifed". We can think of the signified as the concept or idea that a community of speakers associate with the sound or written word. And again, the relationship between the signified and the signifier is arbitrary as well. Saying "Tree" in one culture may refer to the concept of "Bringing me some fish!"

The point of all this was to construct a view of language not tied to material objects. The rules are inherent in the structure of the parts. Just like a chess or checkers game, the pieces could all look very different, as long as the underlying structure of the game remained the same. The authors intention (the inventor of chess), the historical shapes of the pieces and the materials they are made up of take a back seat to the rules of the game.

o Structuralism at Work

By the early 1950's and 1960's people such as Roland Barths and Claude Levi-Strauss had extended Saussure's semiological approach to anthropology, literature and culture in general. In the new interpretive vision, the sign's ability to reflect or mirror nature and the human psyche gave way to the study of how the words and images work as a system of structural relations.

In 1949, Levi-Strauss reformulated Freud's unconscious into two parts, the subconscious and the unconscious. The Subconscious is much like Jung's personal unconscious, and Freud's unconscious, full of psychic substances, memories & imagos, and associations collected during the course of life. The Unconscious was (structurally) more like Carl Jung's Collective Unconscious, devoid of images and full of structural laws. Levi-Strauss saw the personal subconscious like the personal words & pieces of life gathered, while the structural unconscious is what really creates the rules that the pieces play out in life.

By 1953, French psychotherapist Jacques Lacan adopts this idea of the unconscious as full of rules, processes and structural strategies and proposes a three part psychic system, the Real, the Symbolic and the Imaginary. "The object as such, attempting to be know" is the Real. We only experience this indirectly. The representations of the object constitute the Imaginary. The Symbolic is more structural and organizes representations into meaningful images. The self for Lacan is a linguistic construction. Language here is extended to mean any psychic capacity for representation. In the act of representation we can represent ourselves thus creating self awareness. However, this ability to represent divides us into a self that experiences and a self that represents what it experiences. The experiential self on one hand is only known because we can represent it, ("I"), but at the same time separate from those representations and excluded from the common world we all share through language/representations. This exclusion leads to an unconscious order of existence, which may be seen as all our unmediated experience.

The structuralist project focused on these representational realms and worked toward developing an objective science of interpretation, capable of revealing the symbolic structures underlying all narratives. But by the 1970's even the main proponents of the movement were beginning to questions the usefulness and desirability of extracting a collection of abstract rules in every narrative and text. Essentially, the text, once categorized and filed in the place of all the narratives, loses its uniqueness and its difference.

o Poststructuralism

A new movement was arising that was to shun the search for structural similarities between texts.

This post-structural movement found its root influences in such thinkers as Hegel, Nietzsche and Jacques Derrida. The key idea was a suspicion of any project of interpretation that tried to ground itself in an absolute, such as truth, reality, self, center, unity, origin and even author.

Whenever we have a set of rules or system, there is always a grand ole idea that stands outside of the structure and informs it, though the grand ole idea is always itself outside of explanation. Derrida point out in a seminal lecture (Derrida, 1966) an example of how these ultimate first principles work in removing themselves temporally, either ahead or behind of the system they explain. An example with dreams would be the theories that posit anterior causes, such as biochemistry, drives, family, trauma, childhood and day residue. All explanation in these systems refer to an event in the past that caused the dream, but is itself never questioned. Or

the dream is posited as moving forward in time towards ultimates such as Self, Wholeness, Unity, Death and God. To work, the principles have to be removed and the status has to be different.

These transcendental god-terms function as the lynch-pins for the entire Western theory of interpretation.

Derrida points out these are not grand eternal structures we assign to them, but linguistic by products of a naively representational view of language. These terms are... fictions. Useful, but none the less made up. There is no language that is literal, even science. It is all metaphorical. All language is ironic, both revealing and at the same time concealing.

Even dream interpretation systems that simple describe the dream images (such as versions of the Phenomenological approach), certain terms will be literalized and given a privileged status, and all the rest of the terms in the system will revolve around this term and refer to it. Notice in dream theory how these terms are privileged: wish, oedipus complex, archetypes, drives, phallus, desire, imagination, self, repression, compensation. One term is seen as the origin, such as the Jungian Self, or in Freud, the drives.

Try raising the question of origins without thinking about the origin of *that* origin. It is next to impossible. "Origin" is now the transcendental term and all further thinking about it will refer to it, though it remains outside interpretation itself. Origin now explains everything but itself.

Now this dissatisfaction with central explanatory principles was not new to the Post-structuralists. Nietzsche had been working on this "god is dead" theme since the end of the last century. The post-structural addition extends this idea to language and begins to show how hidden in everyday language, this first principle still exists. As Gilles Deleuze said, all words point to Pharaoh, meaning that there is inherent in our language the implication of center to which it is all referring. And yet linguistically, we never reach that center. Instead there a hole in the center of the universe. Those with faith or a flair for gnostic or mystic contact can say the hole is not empty in the way an atheistic approach might have it, but this must always be either private experience and or belief. Shamanistic approaches try to bridge this gap by providing mediating and initiatory experiences for the sake of the seeker, but these generally lie outside of the realm of interpretative theory and are based on relationships of trust between shaman and initiate, or teacher and student, or guru and disciple.

The shift from structural to post-structural interpretation is that of seeing the text as a closed unity with decipherable meaning to viewing the text as irreducibly plural, swinging from literal to metaphorical significance(s) which can never be fixed to a single center, unity or meaning. When we are aware that the theories by which we see the world are just that, theories, then we can pick and choose among them. When we forget that they are theories, then they become more unconscious and begin to structure our views, fooling us and tell us that they are really real. As James Hillman has pointed out, dreams are so wonderful a teacher in this area, because during a dream we realize that we are in the image, the image is not in us.

Does this all sound a bit like Nietzsche and the death of god? It should as Derrida and the other post structural thinkers are all profound readers of Nietzsche. Not only is the idea of a center looked at with suspicion, but all structure is seen as founded on an untenable paradox found in all Western Metaphysics. And yet there is no call to despair. Though the origin cannot be recovered, the awareness of this leads to a particular kind of freedom, what Derrida calls "freeplay"

Since these early days of Derrida, many thinkers made the poststructural shift, including Julia Kristeva & Jacques Lacan in psychoanalysis, Michel Foucault and Michel de Certeau in history, Jean Francois Lyotard and Gilles Deleuze in cultural-political critique and oodles of others in literary and aesthetic criticism. Though each has his/her own unique contribution, the was a general abandonment of explanation of meaning via first causes, origins and orders based on binary oppositions. The idea that there was even a single "me" or "you" was abandoned as well. The idea of a single text is replaced by the word "discourse" generally meaning that anything longer than a sentence erupts into history, breaks into contexts, decenters the subject and distributes a continual flow of meaning. (How like the dream.).

Even the concept of "man" or "Humanity" becomes a linguistic construct. We have no nature, or more properly, to speak of our Nature is to get caught up in the linguistic binary game of what is nurture, what is nature, and thus it has no meaning outside of this game. All universals that are posited as valid fall into this new paradox.

While this movement was highly involved in linguistic critiques of social and political practices, showing how language figures in the construction of the possibilities of meaning and reality, the larger cultural movement, postmodernism has extended itself into and beyond these initial linguistic and social critiques to include the signifying practices of the culture at large. In literature, the writer may have the text become self conscious and have the text converse with the story itself. In architecture, what is usually seen only inside a building might be found on the outside. The general significance of the postmodern spills out into the streets and is as relevant there as with the avant-garde. (How like the Dream)

o Sign of the Times

Increasingly important in Postmodern thought is the Sign in Culture. The social order shifts from

productive to reproductive, and simulations and models of reality begin to replace what was once thought to be real. The differences between appearance and reality fade. Representation is replaced by presentation. Singularity of truth is replaced by plurality of viewpoint. Lyotard speaks about the grand narratives being replaced by more local accounts of reality. Just as the emphasis in structuralism moved the attention away from the concrete object to the objects sign, the postmodern continues to move the attention away from the signified (concept) to the signifier or the signifying act. Like an improvisational jazz movement or a rock and roll concert, the meanings may swirl around the event, but the focus is on the instrumentality or acoustic materiality of the moment.

o Dreams and the Postmodern: A brief account to date

There have been a few attempts by dream theorists to move dreamwork and dreaming into the postmodern, but these are mostly scattered talks and texts. In 1989, Harry Hunt's book the Multiplicity of Dreams was published. In this close examination of the cognitive science of dreaming, Hunt revealed how bias of perspectives also bias the not only the interpretation of empirical results, but choice of the objects of study and the funding as well. Hunt also recognized the core of dreaming as "exterioriz(ing) the processes of cross-modal synesthetic translation and mutual reorganization that may constitute the core of all symbolic intelligence." (Hunt 1989 206).

Here the process of cross-modal synesthetic (hearing colors, tasting sounds) translation and mutual reorganization refers to a post-representational presentation in which meaning is generated in the freeplay of being, becoming and re-becoming. Bert States, in his book _the Rhetoric of Dreams_ explores Dreams and the Freudian Primary Process, (the dream-work of displacement, symbolization, condensation and so on) in literary terms of Irony and other metaphoric shifts brought about by language. Paul Kugler, a Jungian (post-jungian?) and Gordon Globus have both given presentations at the Association for the Study of Dreams on the postmodern and dreams. Kugler attempts to question the limits of dream theory as we move from the modern to the postmodern. Kugler asks of any dream interpretation:

Where is the dream being literal, and where is it being figurative? To what does the dream refer, the inner world, the outer world, or is it self-referential? Who is the author of the dream, biology, a wish, a desire, a deity, or is there no author? How do we develop a dream theory that is itself self conscious? That is, capable of carrying an awareness of its own figural aspects and assumptions? ( its own unconsciousness?). Gordon Globus has been attempting to construct a connectionists theory of mind/brain and apply this to dreaming as a way to move into viewing dreaming without getting caught up in representational thought. In his Neural Net theory, the brain flows, and in this flow of interactive influences there are valleys and hills that we settle for a few moments and experience one of many possible worlds. Dreaming is simply the flow of these neural nets without the constraints of outer stimulation. James Hillman has also attempted to view dreams without importing theories from the past and his _Dreams and the Underworld_ creates a bridge between the structural projects of Jung and the Postmodern psychoanalytic theories that remove the idea of the Self as a central organizing principle to open the individual to a spectrum of archetypal influences which may play out on a larger cultural theater than the therapist's couch.

However, the most explosive and creative venue for postmodern dreaming has been the Internet. Some ideas are more apparent than others. The ideas of the pre-commercial Net have influenced contemporary Late 90's Cyberspace, which include sharing of resources, the acceptance of multiple identities, the encouragement toward the non-familiar, the cooperative spirit of helping one another get these ideas up and out to the public, general trust of chaos and anarchy and relationships bonded by mutual interest rather than coercions. Though most of these concepts have collapsed under the proprietary territorializations of the commercial networks, they are the backdrop that have provided support to what I'm calling America's Postmodern Dreaming in Cyberspace. Here the multiple forms of trans categorical presentation erupt in ever new forms. Typically we catagorize them, dream art, dream work, dream sharing, dream science, lucid dreaming, shamanic dreaming, spiritual dreaming, journey dreaming, psychic dreaming, dream journals, dreams comments, dream inspired poetry and so on. But these dream eruptions generally defy any classification and break many boundaries. At one moment a dream is a journal entry, the next a discussion between people from around the world in a simulated virtual room. Later a picture emerges on a Web site and it is linked to the sleep research laboratories in Cincinnati. An individual following this path may be involved in the meaning of the dream, but they are also involved in the track of the dream, the medium of the text in a chat room, in an email, and on the Web, as a gif or jpeg. This, I feel, has been America's contribution to the Postmodern, a computer mediated anarchical network of discourse vibrating with the eruptions onto its virtual surface.

What seems to be missing is a reading together of the pragmatic American know-how with the Continental discourses on theory. Instead of using new ideas to explain the meaning of what we have done, the idea here is to use the ideas to further what has been done, to break through old concepts and restrictions of the real, to reach, as the surrealist call it, the Surreal.

In dreamwork online we have in many ways already achieved postmodern status. The identity of the player is always in flux and there is an emphasis on play itself as important. We often acknowledge the inability to establish the meaning of a dream for another subject, and thereby all agree from the start that all meanings are really our own. A dream might mean a life style change to one participant, while another may build a new community, another take on social injustice. We are deeply aware in the late 20th Century of all the ephemerality, fragmentation, discontinuity and chaos. To move into the postmodern is not to transcend this, nor to counteract it, nor even to find the eternal elements in it. Rather, we learn to swim in it, to wallow, to witness as if that is all there is, Samsara is Nirvana. Thus, this column plans no particular direction or schedule. At this moment it appears there is a postmodern attitude, but this may change. Deleuze suggests to 'develop actions, though and desires by proliferation, juxtaposition, and disjunction," and "to prefer what is positive and multiple, difference over uniformity, flows over unities, mobile arrangements over systems. Believe that what is productive is not sedentary but nomadic." (Preface, Anti-Oedipus).

How like the dream.

-Richard Wilkerson, May 1997

If you are interested in learning more about Postmodern(ism)? I have set up an index site to online texts. I recommend first reading the alt.postmodern faq file.

www.dreamgate.com/pomo/

Beginning Book Suggestions: (by priority )

+Sarup, Madan (1989). _An Introductory Guide to Post-Structrualism and Postmodernism_. Athens, GA:University of Georgia

[Best all around short introduction to the postmodern]

+Best, S. & Kellner, D. (1991). _Postmodern Theory: Critical Interrogations_. New York: The Guilford Press.

[an overview of the postmodern from the Jump--Right-In school. Some generalizations may be confusing and the use of language and style often needs more investigation]

+Berman, Art (1988). _From the New Criticism to Deconstruction: the reception of Structuralism and Post-Structuralism_. Chicago: University of Chicago Press.

[a very good analysis of the American Reception to poststructuralism and its influences. Tends towards literary and philosophical types, misses a lot of the cultural stuff]

+Adams, Hazard & Searle, Leroy (1986) _Critical Theory Since 1965_. Tallahassee, FL: Florida State University Press.

[for the history of interpretation this is a great sampling, with some introduction to dozens of prominent and classical texts in critical literature]

+Harraway, Donna(1980) "A Manifesto for Cyborgs: Science, Technology, and Socialist Feminism in the 1980s" (Linda J. Nicholson, ed. *Feminism/Postmodernism*. NY: Routledge, 1980, pp. 190-233)

[This seminal essay is a must for everyone in cyberspace. Suggestions for how the mix of technology and humanity will break down both categories and re-assemble a more even playing field for women and other repressed minorities].

Anderson, Water Truett (1995). _The Truth about Truth: De-confusiong and Re-constructiong the Postmodern World_. New York, NY: Jeremy P. Tarcher

[A collection of quick takes on the postmodern from a wide variety of authors]

+Leitch, Vincent B. (1983). _Deconstructive Criticism_ New York:Columbia University Press.

[an overview of deconstruction in literary theory - assumes reader has some familiarity with a pre-deconstructive philosophy and theory]






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Graduate Education in Dream Studies

Mena Potts, Ph.D.

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Reprinted with permission of M. Potts and Alan Siegel from

ASD Newsletter Spring 1996 13(1), 31-33.

Editors Note: Though this article has been printed in the ASD newsletter, I would like to see the participation in this program extended to the public at large. RCW



In response to the interest of ASD members and the dearth of available dream study programs our Task Force on Graduate Education in Dream Studies was formed. Our objective is to encourage the development of graduate education in dream studies. The Task Force was founded by Stanley Krippner in 1993, during his tenure as President of the Association for the Study of Dreams. Our Task Force grew out of a Hospitality Suite focused discussion on Graduate Education in Dream Studies conducted during the 1993 ASD International Conference. Sensing that there might be ASD members who were interested in graduate education in dream studies, I convened a Hospitality Suite discussion entitled, "Developing Creative Ph.D. Programs in Dream Psychology." The purpose was to explore ASD members' needs and interests in graduate education in dream studies.

The focus of the discussion was creative interdisciplinary graduate study in dream psychology through "Universities Without Walls." As the convener I led a discussion and shared my experience with The Union Institute, Cincinnati, Ohio; Saybrook Institute, San Francisco, California; and the Center for Humanistic Studies, Detroit, Michigan. Materials were distributed describing the learning opportunities in dream studies which these three graduate schools provided.

Several ASD Conference attendees came to our discussion seeking information on doctoral programs in dream psychology and

graduate education in dream studies. During our discussion we each drew from our own experience. I reviewed my experience in developing the first Doctoral Program in Dream Psychology which I achieved through The Union Institute with the cooperative input of Montague Ullman, Stanley Krippner and Saybrook Institute and Clark Moustakas and The Center for Humanistic Studies.

My interest in graduate education in dream studies actually began some twenty five years ago, originating with my own precognitive dream experiences. In 1970 I began to keep a dream journal which I still maintain. In addition to extensive reading I pursued my interest by taking courses and workshops through universities and organizations, including The Center for East-West Studies in Switzerland, a Tibetan Buddhist university in England and training in sand play.

At that time dream studies were largely confined and concentrated in the various analytic institutes. I studied at an analytic institute and worked with an analyst for several years. Wishing to learn as much as possible about dreams I did a comparative review of the various dream theories. I encountered numerous theories and approaches, some of which were inconsistent or contradictory with others. Dream interpretation was obviously shaped by theoretical training, but I wanted a scholarly overview.

Instead of a singular theory or particular analytic school I wanted to locate an eclectic and comprehensive study of dreams through a university psychology department. My extensive search began with the American Psychological Association and their publication on graduate education in Psychology. This entailed my writing and contacting many universities both in the United States and in Europe. Several universities would have permitted a dissertation and research in dream studies and, in fact, many people had completed dissertations in this area. However, I could not locate any university that offered a doctoral study program in dream psychology and an internship and training program in dream psychology, in addition to the dissertation. It was a discouraging odyssey that began to appear unrealizable.

So I looked inward, asked for guidance through my dreams and I proceeded to have a precognitive dream in February 1980. The dream opened with a marriage (a "union"). In the next scene I was walking on a Pittsburgh street on my way to see an analyst I had worked with. There was ice on the pavement and my shoes were too small. They were tight and constricted my ability to walk or to attain a firm grip on the ground. I decided to take a new path through a tunnel in the University of Pittsburgh Cathedral of Learning, now on my way to see an analyst by the name of Monet or Monte. Upon awakening I felt this analyst (by the name of Monet or Monte) was an important clue related to my interest in graduate education in dream studies. Since I did not know an analyst by either of those names I searched through the directories of analysts at the University of Pittsburgh and asked around, but to no avail. No one knew an analyst named Monet or Monte.

A few months later, when I first met Montague Ullman, I shared my dream with him and asked him if he knew of an analyst by the last name of Monet or Monte. He did not, but he told me his nick name was Monte and I realized he was the analyst in my dream. The shoes in my dream, which were too small and tight, metaphorically represented the constrictions of a singular or particular theory, which constrictions prevented me from getting a solid grip or grounding in dream understanding. The marriage in my dream (the "union") precognitively represented the Union Institute, where I would later receive the first doctorate in Applied Dream Psychology awarded in the United States. The relation of my dream images to Montague Ullman and our future endeavor in dream psychology became strikingly apparent when we subsequently charted a new course in a "Cathedral of Learning" without walls, The Union Institute.

The Union's emphasis on creatively individualizing higher education through an interdisciplinary Ph.D. program provided an opportunity for our development of a doctoral program in dream psychology that was nowhere available through traditional universities. Within my Union doctoral committee and the Union Institute's "Universities Without Walls" I found what I could not locate within the walls of any university, anywhere - one of the largest collections of dream knowledge and dream authorities.

In retrospect, learners seeking graduate education in dream studies can benefit by looking both inward and outward. I urge them to read the literature, attend ASD and other conferences to find who and what resonates with their areas of interest. I suggest they contact those with whom they are interested in studying. Through introspection and working with our dreams we can embrace the challenge to find our own way and to create our own path to knowledge and understanding.

Currently our ASD Task Force is working on the development of an interdisciplinary doctoral program in dream studies. The learning field is wide and unlimited, with ample space for graduate education in dream studies in many disciplines.

In 1994 the ASD Task Force on Graduate Education in Dream Studies developed a model for a masters' degree in psychology in dream studies but that proposal has not yet been implemented at the university level. Nevertheless, since my initial exploration in 1980 there has been notable progress. ASD and its members have played a significant role in the development of graduate education in dream studies by offering more and more courses in dream studies at colleges and universities where they teach. Today, 15 years after my initial pursuit and the development of the first Ph.D. program in Dream Psychology the "universities without walls," such as The Union, Saybrook and Fielding Institutes and The California Institute of Transpersonal Psychology, continue to offer impressive resources for graduate education in dream studies. It may take time but I am confident that our day will come when the value of dream studies will be recognized and incorporated within more universities as a bona fide Masters or Ph.D. degree program.







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Column: Life, Art Dream

Bones

by Alissa Goldring

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BONES

The Dream:

"I see people whose bones are not actually bones, but some composition material n the shape of femurs, ribs, skull and so on. The outer layer, though having the appearance of skin, is actually synthetic and the space between bones and skin is filled with a grey, mealy substance . Yet the total aspect resembles a human form which can walk, speak, more, eat, sleep and interact like a human being.

These creatures tell me that the process which transformed them from natural humans is termed "minsking" , and was administered by the powers who control this country. Because they are in this condition they are unable to change themselves back into authentic humans."



That word "minsk" intrigues me. Is it a child's version of "mince" - to chop into little pieces, to mash up?

Two incidents, occurring shortly before, are relevant to this dream. First, I'd been upset by my reaction to a friend when she stretched out her wrist to show a scar from her attempted suicide. I could not look. Filled with remorse and shame as I remembered turning away when I wanted to give her the comfort and understanding she needed, I could not fathom what had blocked me.

Second, a boy I knew, who would have been thirteen in two days, returned from school, walked out of his house to the large oak tree in the back yard -- and hung himself. Returning tired after a day's work, his mother dumped her things on the kitchen table, called his name, went looking for him, and found him hanging there, dead. When I heard of this I could not stop crying. That poor child, that poor mother. How could no one have noticed his sorrow, his pain, I wondered? Why didn't someone do something before it was too late?

Not long after, a compassionate friend said to me, " You are really asking, 'Why didn't someone pay attention to me when I was a child? Why didn't someone help me in my misery?'" My crying is like the ocean bursting a dike where a child had been holding her finger in the hole to keep back the waters.

My wise friend said to me, " You too ' killed yourself ' to escape unbearable pain, but, unlike Pauli, and your friend, you 'minsked' yourself and created a stand-in, so that you could survive, at least partially . You escaped into your imagination; Pauli escaped into death, as your friend attempted to."

Alissa

alissa@dreamgate.com

The online version with graphics of Alissa's work is at

www.dreamgate.com/dream/goldring/g97may.htm







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Madame Aionia's Astrological Dreaming Series:

Dreaming Through the Houses: 5th House

+ Some Fifth House Rooms...by Island

+Dreaming in the Fourth House... by Island

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Have you ever wondered how dreams and astrology are connected?

There are many ways we can connect dreams to astrology, and many don't require that you know all about your Natal Chart. In this column we will be exploring the symbolic rather than predictive aspects of astrology. Symbolic astrology attempts to use the images of astrological to give meaning to one's life and empower choices rather than predict paths. We do this by imaginal overlay. In this process we impleach, (poetically interweave) dream, image, feeling, life and symbol in a way to evoke a felt sense of the dream's imagery and its position in our life.

This year we are focusing each month on a different House. The inner circle of the Natal or Birth Chart is divided into 12 distinct regions know as Houses. They relate to everyday activates. One will be about physical appearances and temperament, while another relates to possessions, for example. Planets and signs fall within these Houses and influence the areas of focus. We will be watching for images of planets, signs and other celestial events and hopefully begin to see the emergence of an astrological chart that dips into birth charts, dreams, and our waking life.



The Fifth House traditionally includes such areas as pleasures and amusements, love affairs, children, creativity and self-expression, speculation and investments. What is the thread? Being Leo and the reflection of the Sun and thus conscious ego, it might be seen as the area where an individual can be uniquely and completely oneself. Feelings, desires, ideas and activities are all full of one's own essence where there is no compromise with otherness. Through creative self-expression, the meaning of ones own identity can appear. Often the Fifth House is called the House of Love, but perhaps it would be better characterized as the House of Romance. Here we can project ourselves fully into the other and experience a love that reveals peeks at our own inner center.

Dream: "He came into my dark bedroom and I could clearly see only the red tulip he carried. I knew we would spend the night together. We began nibbling the tulip, bumping noses and laughing, both finding the game so funny. He was so easy to play with, I couldn't believe it, it was like we had always been playing together."

Perhaps the natural instincts in the dream are emblematic of the intuitive perception in this House, intuition of one's completeness or total psyche. There is that special kind of intuition that comes from reflecting on oneself and one's creations, though not an intellectual grasp. It is more the kind of understanding that brings us closer to the experience.

A problem in the Fifth House erects barriers between and individual and his/her self realization. Generally these will appear first as shadowy elements. Children may have dreams of bad animals, adults of intrusions of characters that seem morally inferior, who bug us and who we would rather die than think we are like. More abstract symbols might be circulations where the flow is block, like water not being able to circulate, or breaks in land and vehicular travel. More emotionally, dreams where the dreamer gives and gives, but doesn't receive may appear. Or audiences that don't respond, possible love encounters where there is rejection, being disconnected from one's creations or children.

Dream: "I'm leading a team of archeologists and I push the team through many perils before reaching the ancient tomb. The team doesn't seem to appreciate how much I have helped them. We open the tomb and find many rooms of treasure, yet all the time I sense it is all worthless and pointless and feel no joy in all we have achieved. I'm repulsed at first at how the team is running around excited by all the treasure, but then become amused and begin to see them like kids in a candy store."

Salvation for those afflicted in the Fifth House will usually come from being able to shift their wounded self attention to the joy of others. This is difficult since envy can be very prevalent. In the above dream, the dreamer is pushy and achievement oriented, and all the treasures in the world cannot connect him (?) with himself. A glimmer of hope appears as the attention shifts to the joy of the others.

There are many other interesting areas in the Fifth House, which Island has wonderfully unfolded for us in the essay on "Some Fifth House Rooms".

M. Aionia

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Some Fifth House Rooms...by Island

When I meandered through the fifth house (Leo, Sun), I discovered a grand and impressive house, with many rooms. A living room where children, once born, whether a child of the imagination or womb, are its heart and soul, its reason for being. A den and casino-like game room, where diversions of all kinds take place; the bedroom, where romantic love may be kindled; the kitchen where laughter, good humor, and high spirits spill over and replenish the activities of the house; the study where decisions are made in a bear or bull market, with caution being thrown to the wind; the basement where artistry flourishes; the sundeck where happiness, contentment and joy reign. Yeats's judgement in Purgatory, "To kill a house I hereby declare a capital offense" haunts an unrealized fifth house. "Men without joy seem like corpses" [Kathe Kollwitz, East Prussian artist]. And in this house, there is one and only one player: "Me." What follows is a selection of quotations and dream fragments which is a further elaboration on the fifth house. Hopefully, an indelible impression of the fifth house remains so that any dream sharing fifth house concerns can be easily grasped. Some few questions posed by fifth house concerns are (and there are zillions others)...

What...

is my pleasure? values and lessons do I impart to my children? stages/arenas appear in my dreams? To what extent have I developed my abilities?

(How) Do I...

laugh a lot? receive applause? perform? transcend suffering and pain? celebrate? play, communicate from myself, create, procreate, speculate? bring a spirit of play to work? take risks? bring romance into my life? entertain myself?

Am I...

dramatic? popular? worshiped? spontaneous? Self-expressive? humorous?

Interestingly enough, an approach toward answering these questions are embedded in the dreams I dream.

A few quotes to give the tones of the vibrations that echo off and through the walls, carried by a Southern breeze or a Northern wind, no matter what activities are underway:

Quote 1: I celebrate myself and I sing myself. I dote on myself, there is that lot of me and all so luscious! [Walt Whitman]

Quote 2: When I walk out, I am a great event. [Sylvia Plath]

Quote 3: Always star in your own movie. [Ken Kesey]

Quote 4: All the world's crazy but me and thee, and I sometimes worry about thee. [My sometimes father, when drunk]

Quote 5: Everyone has a right to my opinion. [Anonymous]

Quote 6: I am in earnest -- I will not equivocate -- I will not excuse -- I will not retreat a single inch; and I will be heard. [WL Garrison]

Drama is the Doorman...

Quote 1: A people without drama is a people without truth. [Rodolfo Usigli, Mexican writer]

Dream Fragment: A woman steps in for a famous male actor to play the last part of Hamlet the closing night. I think to myself, "How can a woman play the part of Hamlet with any credibility? Does she disguise herself as a man, or what?"

Children In The Wings...

Quote 1: The period of childhood is a stage on which time and space become entangled. [Yukio Mishima, Japanese Writer, Confessions of a Mask]

Dream Fragment: Two children, traveling on a beam of light, to the moon. At the moon's entrance, they look at each other, one falling to the right of the ray and the other moving to the left, and do a dance.

Dream Fragment: I'm to see this film. I do. The film begins. I'm amazed. It's absolutely wonderful. There's this huge, huge highway that you see immediately that's opening up. And the highway seems to have water flooding it. Going up the highway is a band of children, perhaps gypsy children. They are children who play and make their own way. You can hear them engaged in song and laughter and conversation. They remind me of the kind of children that Charles Dickens would write about. Or children in Les Miserables. A gang of ruffians.

Quote 2: Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. [Jesus Christ, somewhere in the New Testament]

Dream Fragment: Maybe we are drawn from out of his office to the party by a laughing, singing circle of children in a ring: ring around the posie style. But the entertainment is like a flash, it happens so quickly. When the circle breaks, a couple of kids dialogue in a scripted fashion. Long haired dogs spring to mind. Also adults are begging and coaxing the kids to come to them.

Quote 3: Let us return to the magic hour of our birth for which we mourn. [Kofi Awoonor, Ghanaian writer, "This Earth, My Brother"]

Dream Fragment: I watch a little boy being pushed out into the world to make it on his own. He couldn't have been more than two years old, and I see him struggling for language, for movement, and I do not do anything but observe. I see the baby on its own striking out for the beach, then heading directly for the water. In Andalusia someone who is to wait for me leaves me in the square. I walk around and am whisked by this man inside this makeshift theatre behind curtains. Looks like a gypsy setup. He begins to perform, he and his troupe, for me with all the gusto and assurance of a professional actor, then loses confidence and stops as if he does something absurd by even attempting to perform. I encourage him to continue, but he won't.

An Artist is Always Engaged Because Everything Is Done With Style and a Flair...

Quote 1: Everyone has talent. What is rare is the courage to follow the talent to the dark place where it leads. [Erica Jong, american writer, The Artist as Housewife: The Housewife as Artist]

Dream fragment: We are going down a river together and see a group of musicians. One is a female flautist who plays effortlessly and beautifully. The group is reminiscent of former fraternity/sorority kids who decide to turn into hobo-artists. Perhaps it is a riverboat gig. Then they pile up together in the form of a pyramid, then dance. It reminds me of a cabaret pose, or a frieze from any modern musical. They are imitating keeping each other warm in the arctic cold.

Dream Fragment: I walk down a highway, or street, with both husband and stepson. I've been given a clarinet to play. As I begin to play, I'm upset because I cannot achieve the easy grace and flow and style achieved during my youth, when I played the clarinet. I keep complaining that something is wrong with the instrument because the wind isn't blowing through freely. There is much strain in playing. The sound is not fullbodied. It is as if I've lost my ability to be a musician.

Quote 2: In order to find reality, each must search in his own universe, look for the details that contribute to this reality that one feels under the surface of things. To be an artist means to search, to find and look at these realities. To be an artist means never to look away. [Akira Kurosawa, Japanese film director]

Dream fragment: I am squeezed between a refrigerator and a wall. I am facing a wall and cannot, or do not want, to move. A woman behind me wants me to turn around and look at her. I do not want to. She finally gets me to do so by holding out a necklace that has a delicate art object on it, and it captures my attention. She herself is beautiful in every way, dressed elegantly without a care in the world, and very successful. Or gives that appearance. We go for a walk, and she tells me about her lifestyle. Makes plenty of money. Everything is easy. Inside a large apartment or house several females are gathered together for a reunion, as she's telling us about herself. I am in awe but still have a hanging question regarding whether or not she is really in an enviable position. We plan to leave for the movie. It is raining. She pulls out a huge green umbrella. I admire how not one drop of rain touches us, encircled in a magic circle of protection. I think of my paltry black umbrella. We enter a movie house and wait for a midnight performance. I look at the listings, and it is like Cable TV on display in a movie theatre. There are too many choices, and I cannot choose.

Joy, Pleasure, Laughter, Good Humor Abound...

Quote 1: After carrying and collecting like the ant, enjoy -- before the grave worm devours thee. [Sa'di of Shiraz, Persian poet]

Dream Fragment: She is not your usual supervisor. There is an air of careless abandonment about her and a country freshness that is rare. But there is also more a mystical quality about her, for she never says a word to me. We walk up a huge flight of stairs, very wide. The kind of stairs one might find in an institution or prison because they are iron stairs, yet grandiose due to their width. I say to her, "How can you stand this bureaucracy?" At that very moment, beautiful jazz music blares out, and she begins dancing to the music up the staircase with an enigmatic smile. I am getting frustrated because there is never the moment when I can air my grievance. When we reach the top of the stairs, a party is underway. Food is placed in an "L" shape, or at least it appears so with the wall. I see the food but I eat nothing.

Quote 2: Do anything, but let it produce joy. [Henry Miller]

Dream Fragment: I see this beautiful house. Opposite the house on a road is a huge lake. I wonder if the people ever go out and canoe or fish. It's wonderful. Then I'm with Daddy and we're travelling. I ask, "Daddy, have you ever seen this neighborhood?" He says, "No, I never have." It's like discovering something very surprising in this gorgeous neighborhood. I ask, "Please find out how much these houses are." He says, "I'm not going to ask anyone." I say, "Ask a teenager or someone who just happens to come up." We stop.... He sees a little kid who's playing. He gives the kid a whole bunch of change. The kid jumps up, ecstatic. "Thank you, thank you, thank you!" I say, "Daddy, that was really a generous to do." Daddy made him so happy! The joy is infectious. He says, "No, it wasn't. The change was right there before me, all the time. I didn't do anything. I just pointed it out to him." The feeling is as if it's happening right now, with Daddy full of life, spirit, fun and joy. Whole. Then I'm on a children's playground, a special kind of school where children play. A private school. Wide, open, spacious. How do I fit in, or what am I doing there?

Quote 3: (Wo)Men without joy seem like corpses. [Kathe Kollwitz, East Prussian artist]

Dream Fragment: I am sitting in a park, or garden, and mother, I think, sits beside me. But it's not exactly mother, yet it is. A woman tells me I may never see her again. She is laughing gaily, giggling but beautifully almost, like a little girl, bubbling over with joy.

Quote 4: The greatest happiness is to transform one's feelings into actions. [Madame de Stael, French writer]

Dream Fragment: Something strikes my eye. A rope coiled around in a circular fashion and something inside the coil, a smooth mound or something covered over with cloth. Lee and I take two separate sleds and go sledding in the snow -- a real joy ride! A very winding path where we careen through snow and ice. Actually it feels treacherous.

Quote 5: He deserves paradise who makes his companions laugh. [Qur'an, sacred book of Islam]

Dream Fragment: I felt like I was dying, of being in a stadium. I am part of a couple, or between a couple. We are there, observing. We look into the arena, and see night. A man and a woman have just been given an award for having each known that they are to die within the year and yet had lived completely and fully. While this is going on, there is repartee and wit abounding among the people that I am with, to the point that I am absolutely laughing hysterically. And I wake up, laughing hysterically. Should I die laughing? I have never laughed so hard in my life.

Lady Luck The Guardian Angel Always On Call...

Quote 1: Venture all; see what fate brings. [Vietnamese proverb]

Dream Fragment: On the spur of the moment a radio sweepstakes is announced. I respond immediately knowing I will win. My mind whirls with the winner's assurance only because the first who responds is the winner. But then they throw all the first responses together and at a later date draw the winning ticket. Now I am not so sure.

Eternally Swept away by Romance...

Quote 1: Clean is the autumn wind, splendid the autumn moon, the blown leaves are heaped and scattered, the ice-cold raven starts from its roost. Dreaming of you -- when shall I see you again? On this night sorrow fills my heart. [Li Po, Chinese poet, Verses]

Dream Fragment: Rock takes me out and to my surprise begins to treat me in a highly romantic fashion. We kiss at length and he is gentle and tender. Furthermore, knowing how solid as a "rock" he is, I have no fears about allowing intimacy to develop. Being with him feels wonderful and is a relationship with a man I always hoped to have.

Dream Fragment: He says he's been wanting to meet me all my life. The meeting transforms him because, typically, he's incredibly shy, though when he meets me, he's not shy at all. So spend the better part of the evening together. We kiss. He looks into my eyes, and I his. Very intense, powerful. He needs to return to his own home, doing so without me.

Dream Fragment: I whisper in his ear, "You are mine." I immediately wish to take back these words, as if I am afraid I will scare him off. I don't mean it in the sense I wish to own him. We kiss forever. I get lost inside them.

The Roof and Sky Overhead: Spirit of Giving and Receiving...

Quote 1: If Heaven above lets fall a plum, open your mouth. [Chinese proverb]

Dream Fragment: As he looks at the window, seeing the water, a beautiful view, he says, "How lucky I am to enjoy God's world." And I agree with him. I point out, "You shouldn't be concerned about anyone taking over this particular vacation spot."




Dreaming in the Fourth House - Island

Here is an example of a fourth house dream:

Where There's Fire, There's Deep Lawnings (97.03.01)

Dreamed Rob and I walk across the lawn of a two-story house where at least one man & probably others live. Smoke alerts us to the possibility of a fire, and we let the young man coming down from the 2nd story know, although I'm not sure we are believed. Something about me then calling a store owner who sold the man the sofa, which is to be carted out of the house and back to the shop. I think that's where the problem lies. Only as the store owner tells me the ID# of the sofa, he repeats it so quicky several times that I cannot write it down. I ask him to go slower again and again as his patience runs out and I never get the number. Then Rob and I are at a table eating with a friendly group, who suddenly disappear, while we are then eating with at least one unfamiliar person who isn't so friendly.

-- but when I dreamed it on March 1st, 1997, I had no clue as to the dream's meaning. Intrigued, however, by the possibility of astrological keywords that might help me unlock at least the focus of the dream, I analyzed the dream, first, by assigning house numbers for every word that appeared in the dream, using The Astrological Thesaurus: House Keywords, by Michael Munkasey, published in 1992 by Llewellyn Publications.

Here's the simple analysis. Every number references an astrological house. Every word with a number appears in The Astrological Thesaurus, also referenced by house (and category). Any number in parentheses means the keyword is introduced earlier in the dream; any #/# means shared houses. Seems like a lot of work, but it really isn't. Just provides clarity where little existed before.

12 Dreamed

7 Rob and I

1 walk across the

4 lawn of a

4 two-story house where at least

9 one man & probably others (strangers)

4 live.

12 Smoke

1 alerts us to

9 the possibility of a

1/5 fire,

2 and the young man

10 coming down from the 2nd story

11 we let know, although

12 I'm not sure

9 we are believed. Something about

1 me then calling

4/2 a store owner who

9 sold the man

2 the sofa, which is to be

(3/4) carted out of the house and back to the shop.

8 I think that's where the problem lies. Only as the store owner

3 tells me

1 the ID# of the sofa,

3 he repeats it so quicky several times

3 that I cannot write it down.

8 I ask him to

2 go slower again and again as

1 his patience runs out and

12 I never get

6 the number.

(7) Then Rob and I are

6 at a table

4 eating

11 with a friendly group,

8 who suddenly disappear, while

(4) we are then eating with

2 at least one unfamiliar

7 person who isn't so friendly.

When I say, "This is a fourth house dream," what I mean is essentially, this dream may be primarily about fourth house matters. And fourth house matters are at the core of Self. We begin our sojourn here, and end it here. It's the heart, the root of things and, perhaps, the wellspring of life itself. It's about caring, devotion, ethnic traditions, family, hearth and home. It's about our fundamental nature; quality of life; it's about anything from the past -- memory, history -- what calls forth sentiment; it's about accumulation -- attachment, holding onto what one considers valuable, worth cherishing -- and how one goes about protecting what is near and dear to one's heart.

Did I personally need to reference the houses and do an actual count to get a sense that this was a fourth house dream? (Even though it is debatable that it is a seventh house dream, just as much as a fourth house dream, but I feel it's fourth house because of what the dream seems to be striving for). Unfortunately, yes. This is how my interpretation of the dream evolved:

Rob and I (a married couple) are defining ourselves as a couple as we walk across the lawn of a two-story house occupied by strangers. From the getgo there's a sense that we have not clearly defined as a couple what we value or cherish as a couple. Interesting because March is our anniversary month, and we are now married seven years. But that's clear to me why we probably haven't evolved to that point yet. We are from such radically different walks of life, inherited radically different values, belief systems, et cetera, that no wonder we are seven years into a marriage without having done little more than delineating for each other who we are as individuals.

I assume, in retrospect, that it's our unclaimed, unpossessed house we're looking at. It's two stories. I'm glad of that because it gives us a chance to be cerebral as well as grounded. Right now strangers, perhaps soon to be acquaintances, live there. So perhaps soon Rob and I will come into an increased understanding of what is valuable to us as a couple, rather than just as the arch individualists we are. But there's smoke, suggesting a 12th house matter. This 12th house, hidden matter, brings one of the strangers in the house down to the ground. The fire -- could potentially be the ardent fire of desire; the purifying fire; the creative fire; the fires of destruction. We sound the alarm or recognize the potential of the fire, but something lacks conviction, or purpose. Something is missing because we are uncertain that we are believed, or believable. Belief is a 9th house concern. It appears that something emanating from the dark recesses of our beings, from the shadowlands of the 12th house, is eroding away our belief in ourSelves, perhaps.

Funny thing, but implicit in the dream is what that belief in ourSelves may refer to. When our story of a possible fire brings the young man down from the 2nd story, that alludes to 10th house matters. And the 10th house has to do with achievements and accomplishments, for starters. Do we question this about ourselves? Yes, we do. Maybe that's our Achilles' heel and where we feel most vulnerable. What have we achieved or accomplished as a couple in the eyes of anyone looking at us? Little, I'm sure. Does it matter? Maybe not, because we bring the man down. Perhaps that's one way in which we are beginning to define ourselves as a couple: our inherited understanding as to what matters in terms of status and recognition is not important to us.

The second conundrum: there's the problem of the sofa in this house. Funny, we don't even in reality own a sofa: just a day bed. So when people come over and want to sit comfortably on the expected sofa, they won't because it ain't there. (How many times have I walked into houses where sofas are placed, but no one ever sits?) Is the dream suggesting to us that we have a problem with sofas? Rob didn't want one. Neither did I. Yet does that problem stand in the way of our occupying our own house? Well. Could be. Must be our own house because otherwise, how would I even know how to contact the store owner who sold the sofa that now sits there? And needs to be removed? Must be repaired, fixed, so it can become functional, or have some value. What should exist without value in a house? But something to do with that sofa and perhaps the shared meanings we attach to it could be looked at.

I must want to get to the heart of the conundrum because I contact the store owner and try to get the ID# of the sofa, ostensibly for return and repair. How to identify that sofa? How to seat people comfortably in our presence when they drop in or visit? Or more important, what about those strangers who live in our house? Maybe they're not too comfortable with us a couple. So they can never plop on a sofa and hang around for while just to be known. Maybe the two of us are just two rugged individualists who love each other very much but, beyond that, there's a degree of awkwardness about, perhaps, hidden or private matters that I have heretofore not considered consciously.

Still I must return to the 10th house matters because, though I want to go slow -- and I do -- he repeats the identification number rapidly several times, and I never get it. Delays, repeating efforts, mastering tasks: certainly a tenth house concern. Who likes to work fast, furiously and, in many divergent directions? Rob. When he's on the ground floor. Who likes to go slow on the ground floor? Me. But when I'm on the second floor, I like to do what he does on the first floor. Go off in many different directions simultaneously. And when he's on the second floor, he likes to do what I do. Go slow. Take one thing at a time. So as of yet I haven't really been able to identify the sofa that will have me and Rob sitting on it, and what we value and cherish as individuals, becoming shared, even though the store owner's patience runs out!

The dream ends by foreshadowing a developing sense of what we each have to share with the other at our heart of hearts as individuals that will begin to build on who we are together. Build on our home base -- not our parents but our home foundation -- together. I have problems even now articulating what that means exactly. It feels like an amalgamation of some kind where, what either of us chooses brings to the table (or sit on a sofa), remains undiminished by the other in value, even though the other might not embrace that value as an individual. It's more than accepting or honoring differences -- it's like embracing, including a difference somehow.

Yet Rob and I eat at a table, a fourth house activity, first, with a group, and then with an unfamiliar person, who is not as friendly as the group of people. Mr. Munkasey, in his Astrological Thesaurus, references unfamiliarity as a second house concern, whereas a stranger is referenced as ninth house. Because the second house concerns itself with the value one places on things, to include psychological worth, and how one goes about enjoying the finer things in life, such as eating a wonderful dinner or reclining on a luxurious sofa, I see the relevance of our now eating with an unfamiliar person. Feels just right for now.

I could only but marvel at how Mr. Munkasey has tackled, I feel, successfully, the awesome project of making astrological houses accessible to understanding. Secretly I sighed because dream interpretation is in its infancy by comparison. Yet I wondered if I might not make my dream more accessible by relying on this man's decades of research because I instinctively believed that there are is a strong correspondence between dream language and astrological concepts. Certainly deserves further thought.



-- Island

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An Interview with D.R.E.A.M.S. Foundation Director

and Lucid Paddling Adventure Trip Guide: Craig Webb

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Richard Catlett Wilkerson (RCW): Craig, you seem to be involved in

just about every aspect of dreaming from the high technology of

cyberspace and the lucidity dream-mask development to the natural

ecologies of dream focused canoeing/outdoors trips to the establishment of

research foundations. Is there a central thread in all this, or

are you more like a dolphin who just pops up where there seems to

be some action happening?

The central thread, if there is one, is following my dreams - both the nighttime ones and the daily life ones - and there may not be any difference - the waking effect of which has been to follow my bliss, like Joseph Campbell would say. Early in life, I latched onto the idea from author Richard Bach that nobody was going to make an adventure out of my life unless I did it myself, so I might as well get to it. I never looked back. My interest is in truth, and I've explored wherever I thought it might be found - from high technology to people to the wilderness. My variety of interests has also been a central theme throughout my life, and I feel very grateful that I have natural ability in many different areas. It is my belief that the goal of the technology and consciousness revolutions now taking place is basically ecological. That is to say that, our dreams, increasing awareness, and all our technological tools are here for us to learn to live more in harmony with the natural environment, which of course includes other people, and ultimately for us to re-integrate our natural or what you might call instinctive knowing in a conscious way.

(RCW): What got you interested in dreaming in the first place?

Well, I would say that dreaming got me interested in itself. I was going to a French university in Quebec City, swimming on a swim team over 20 hours a week, doing a B.Sc. in Physics and Electrical Engineering when all of a sudden, Wham! During Christmas break, I started remembering 8-10 dreams a morning. Being the scientist I was, I was intrigued enough to record them, just to see what might happen. I also happened to pick up Richard Bach's newly published book "Bridge Across Forever" in which he and his new wife did something akin to lucid dreaming. I thought this was a fun idea and decided to try with the girl I was seeing at the time. Without ever having heard of Stephen LaBerge, and hence without knowing that he was pioneering it at the same time, I spontaneously used the MILD technique (which at the time I called setting off "memory bombs"), and had a lucid experience the first night I tried, much to my utter amazement and shock at the time. The rest of that year was a very powerful inner awakening with numerous dream and spiritual experiences. I had no idea what the heck was going on, but it was fascinating, so I went with it. The best way I can explain what happened is that I went so deep into the academic/intellectual way of being that, just like going through the little circle inside either half of the Chinese yin yang symbol, I swung right into the other side and was guided (or forced is what it more felt like at the time) to explore the whole dream/intuitive side of life. Fortunately, since then I've understood much better what happened and have integrated these two polarities to a much greater extent, so that this may explain my interests in the opposite yet complimentary realms of science and spirit. All in all, dreams chose me to discover them.

(RCW): How did you get involved with the development of the lucid

dream technology?

In the Spring of that year at University, I fell upon LaBerge's newly published first book, "Lucid Dreaming", and was excited to find that other people were learning about this too. I would say that LaBerge's scientific approach was probably very timely for me too, because I as very quickly becoming disillusioned with the education in science that I was going through since there wasn't even the slightest talk of any of the experiences that I was going through, except for maybe a passing reference to Freud or Jung. I had quite a number of lucid experiences that summer, and have probably clocked over 1000 lucid dreams since that time. I became a member of the newly formed Lucidity Institute, and stayed a member for quite some time. I remember phoning them once to see if LaBerge was doing any research on automated lucid state recognition using EEG signals, which I wanted to do as my thesis. At the time, whoever answered the phone told me that he wasn't (though I much later found out that he was - I guess the time for us to meet wasn't yet ripe). I ended up doing my thesis on computerized recognition of epileptic seizures (which is quite closely related). A couple years, later, I had finally let my Lucidity Institute membership expire, yet by interesting coincidence, I'd done more than three newsletter research experiments and someone at the Institute (Jennifer Dole - the same one I'd spoken to when I first phoned) spontaneously decided that anyone who'd done three experiments or more was entitled to a free subscription, so I continued receiving the NightLight newsletter. It was in the Spring issue of that year that I saw a job offered at Lucidity Institute for office help. I was interested enough and applied, hoping that some of my engineering and lucid dreaming skills might also find a home there. The rest is history, and I moved from Montreal to work at Lucidity Institute and at Stanford with LaBerge. The timing was impeccable too, because the Institute was struggling financially and had just finished designing the DreamLink, a cheap DreamLight - flashing lights on a timer without any smarts. Well, it seemed like my life experience had been designed to bring me exactly to that place and time, and I designed the NovaDreamer, a smart, cheaper lucid dream biofeedback device. I had started leading dream workshops before I moved, and now continued alongside LaBerge. It was a time of tremendous challenge and growth for me, since although I was in a very exciting position, using almost all of my abilities alongside a brilliant man such as LaBerge, working with him proved very difficult at times.

(RCW): Do you use the Lucid Dreaming technology yourself?

I must say that even though I designed the NovaDreamer and had a part in the conception of its add-on peripherals, I don't support the device, nor do I really encourage anyone to use it. In the year that I designed it, I learned a lot, and one of the things that I learned from my experience in using, giving workshops with and providing customer service and support for this new technology was that, for the most part, it wasn't making that much difference for most people after the first few weeks, and if anything, it was disempowering people by having them transfer their own innate ability to successfully have lucid dreams onto a technological device which then soon stopped helping, if it even had in the first place. I know that most of the DreamLights, DreamLinks, and NovaDreamers out there are sitting unused in drawers along with many people's reduced motivation and faith in having lucid dreams. Sadly, in a way, the technology is like the lucid dream microwave oven, and by the nature of the way it's marketed and also due to the quick-fix thinking in our culture, it ends up doing a disservice to lucid dreaming rather than helping it. In my times of deep personal questioning about its effectiveness, I incubated a dream, asking what overall effect it was having out there in the world at large. The dream was simple and to the point. In it, a dear friend and wise, shaman woman that I knew simply left the room - her name (in waking life) is Joy. After that, though it was a great personal challenge for many reasons, I left LaBerge and the Lucidity Institute because I no longer agreed with important aspects of the framework and thinking there. I do see the devices as being useful in some regards to some people, especially as research aids

in lab or home lab settings with the computer interface connected.

(RCW): Is there a "Next Step" in lucid dream technology?

The next step would be one that plays a much more tutorial role, and also one that empowers the user to a much larger extent by offering a rentable, training device, that comes along with an appropriate training program. It's feedback would also be more inclusive of the waking aspects of the users' life. My general feeling is that people are on the average better off learning various principles and techniques from a good teacher or even a book and having their skills and awareness develop naturally and "organically", rather than purchasing a device when it comes to expanding consciousness such as with lucid dreaming. However, I have seen and experienced various technological methods, some aspects of which look very intriguing and promising.

(RCW): Many people are still quite suspicious that lucid dreaming

is just another exercise in the kind of willful egoic muscling

that has brought our planet to the brink of destruction. What's

your take on all this?

A very good question. In terms of having more lucid awareness, either in dreams or in life, I am generally for it, though my position has shifted somewhat since I was first a gung-ho promoter of as-much-lucidity-as-possible-as-soon-as-possible for everyone. I have learned through personal experience that there is a healthy time for people to begin to experiment with consciousness (such as lucid dreaming) and a healthy, organic rate of learning too - which many people don't recognize. Conscious awareness brings responsibility - literally, the ability to respond knowingly - so too much too fast will be far less than the fun that it initially seems to be. The time to begin and the rate of learning are different for everyone, so it's a very personal thing. As one grows in awareness, this predisposes change as one's thinking and hence the framework and waking symbols of the person's life die and then evolve to form new structures. This is the natural process of creation. The change, however, is scary to many people, since they do not recognize it as an evolution - the dying of the old and the birth of the new. The changes that comes into our lives is generally designed by our larger selves (often in our dreams), and hence it's guaranteed to lead us directly towards our greatest fulfillment and by definition, this usually involves facing our fears. Even with those people who know what's going on, if change comes too fast or too big, it's like biting off more than we can chew at once. I know.

As for those people who are afraid of "controlling" dreams because they don't want to meddle with what they consider to be a source of divine or intuitive knowledge, I would have to say a couple things. First, that such a perspective stems from fear-based thinking, a fact which I would advise anyone who follows it to look into. I would also suggest that the same divine source of dreams also must know what is best for each person, and knowing this has encouraged many people towards lucid awareness in their dreams, and also, as a natural by-product, in their lives. It also knows if they're "controlling" their dreams too much and it will guide them to such a realization. Second, among other numerous examples of creativity, healing, problem-solving and useful, practical guidance, lucid dreaming has also helped many people to resolve recurring nightmare themes along with their related waking issues once and for all. There is a delicate balance of experience and understanding to be kept however. Lucid awareness is one thing, and what each person does with it is quite another. I personally haven't and professionally don't encourage people to become "control" freaks in their dreams, but rather suggest that they keep a curious, open approach to the situations that present themselves. If there is anyone who wants to try out my favorite lucid dream experiment, which has brought me truly, truly incredible and often very surprising and fulfilling results, then try this: The next time you go lucid, say to the dream (or think out loud), something like "Please bring me whatever experience and/or knowledge that would bring me the greatest fulfillment right now" (note: sometimes I leave off the "right now" part). I find this to be about the best balance between guiding and letting go that I've discovered to date.

(RCW): Dream work seems to have now slipped off the couch and into the culture at large. Do you foresee a widening gap between clinical and grassroots dream work?

Generally, I see the opposite. With internet, and all the various books and viewpoints being offered to the public, I see people in our culture becoming far more in tune, not only with dreams in general, but with their won (interesting Freudian finger- slip there, I consciously meant "own") personal power and best way to work with their dreams. This is an ongoing process and will likely continue at least over the next few decades, but that is precisely the mission of the D.R.E.A.M.S. Foundation which I founded here in Canada - to spread the awareness of what being in touch with one's dreams has to offer, and to show people how to do it and that there are many great teachers out there, but that, in the end, they are really their own best teacher, as most dream workers would agree.

(RCW): Do you have a theoretical stance or bias yourself in approaching dreams?

I would have to say that I have a number of them. I have grown up with the Seth philosophy which is a framework for viewing experience in general, and by extension, dreams. I also would say that a large aspect of my personal stance is intuitive in that I draw from a tremendous base of insight and experience from over ten years of focused personal dream work, training in many widely varied models of thinking from lucid dreaming to yoga and meditation to ecology and the truths of nature, and from having worked with, trained with or interviewed a number of who I consider to be the great teachers of our times, including Ram Dass, Shakti Gawain, and Hal & Sidra Stone, among others. The intellectual framework which I have personally found to be the most powerful in the last few years comes from the work of psychologists Hal and Sidra Stone, whose work is a powerful extension of the Jungian model and Gestalt techniques. I have also gained much insight into dream symbolism from Philadelphia dream worker James Villareal, who is not only an incredible master of symbolism, but also now a personal friend.

(RCW): There hasn't been much done to bring dream interpretation

and dream science together since Harry Hunt's work in the late 1980's. As a matter of fact, dream science seems to be losing funding in general. Have we reached a wall or limit in dream science, or do you see new horizons opening up?

"Dream science" per se, is definitely not as up and coming as it was at the times of the discovery of REM sleep or at the scientific proof of lucid dreaming. As for it's future, I would say that the science and art of dreams will likely become more integrated as more scientists work with their dreams, and as more dream workers realize that the religion of science, which is basically what it is in our culture, is one of the large present day frameworks which people trust and through which