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Electric Dreams
Volume 3 Issue #2
19 March 1996
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CONTENTS OF THIS ISSUE:
Editors Notes
Questions, Answers, Replies
Dreams, Censorship and the new Telecommunications Act
by - Richard Wilkerson
ASD Web Page - Information on Dreams and Dreaming
Update on DreamNetwork Journal - Roberta Ossana
Article: Gestalt Dream Technique - Rick Bouchard
Article: Hosting Your Dreams - from Henry Reed
Dream Studio Schedule at CompuServe - Donna Campos
!! Dream Ahead '96 - Must Read Dream Project!! Linda Magallon
--> Web Dream Class from Jayne Gackenbach <--
Bob's Dream Site of the Month
GLOBAL DREAMING NEWS
Deadline on Dream Art Show
--> Jermey Taylor on AOL <---
Dream Classes On Internet
Ken Kelzer Seminar
Jungian Meetings in Boston
Jungian Seminars
Jung On IRC
!!!! New Dream Web sites !!!!
ASD CONFERENCE UPDATE
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Index To Dreams & Dream Commentary Sequence for EDv3n2
(Following the Title is the author and the date of the
dream/commentary or submission - in the format of
Year-Month-Day/YYMMDD)
COMMENTARY ON DREAMS FROM PREVIOUS ISSUES:
Commentary on Shadow's "The Good Shepherd" (EDv3n1) by Jay
(960123)
NEW DREAMS:
Dream Series: A WHALE TRILOGY by SARAH
Dream: "Jacking In" by Sarah (960131)
Dream: "Sinking" by Sarah (960131)
Dream: "Redemption" by Sarah (960131)
Dream: "Domestic Violence and Toilets" by Shadow (960122)
Commentary: "Domestic Violence and Toilets" by Jay (960124)
Dream : "Huecos" by JJ ( 960124)
Dream: "At The Foot Of A Mountain" by Kirk (960125)
Dream: "Free Falling" by Kittie B (960128)
Commentary on "Free Falling" by BobC (960122)
Dream: "Geotheanum" by Kenneth (960123)
Dream: "Little Green Apples" by Kenneth (960124)
Dream: "Scourge Of My Planet" by JJ (960124)
Dream: "At The Foot Of The Mountain" by Kirk (960125)
Dream: ".009" by Kenneth (960126)
Dream: "Dark Room" by John (960127)
Dream: "The Stadium" by John (960127)
Dream: "Crystal At The Center Of Time" by Carolyn
(960128)
Dream Series: COMPUTER DREAMS by Felinoid
Dream: "The Cartoons and The Computer" by Felinoid
(960127)
Dream: "Computers In The Snow" by Felinoid (960127)
Dream: "The Apple 486 XT HU? by Felinoid (960126)
Dream: "Champagne Wishes and Caviar Dreams" by Monkey Boy
(960122)
Commentary on "Champagne Wishes ..." by BobC (960202)
Commentary on "Champagne Wishes ..." by Jay (960202)
Commentary on "Champagne Wishes ..." by Bill (960229)
Dream: "The Stand-In" by Marilyn (960131)
Dream: "Nostalgia House" by Kenneth (960201)
Dream: "Pool" by Kenneth (960201)
Dream: "Playwright" by Kenneth (960201)
Dream: "Recycled Youth" by Kenneth (960204)
Dream: "Eastern Fun" by Kenneth (960204)
Dream: "dreaming of dreaming" by Jay (960209)
Dream: "Headless" by Vittorio (960213)
Commentary on "Headless" by Jay (960214)
Dream: "Prozac" by Kenneth (960212)
Dream: "Ringworld" by Kenneth (960212)
Dream: "The Little Man In The Boat" by Kenneth (960214)
Dream: "Emotional Vortex" by lotus (93XXXX to 94XXXX)
Commentary: on Blair's dreams of (960225 & 960228) by
lotus
Commentary: on Nutcracker's Chased and Beaten dream by
lotus
NUTCRACKER SUITE VI:
Dream: "Mixing Pleasure With Business" by Nutcracker
(960119
Dream: "Get Off My Screen" by Nutcracker (960119
Dream: "Shopping Spree - Pt 1" by Nutcracker (960120)
Dream: "Shopping Spree - Pt 2" by Nutcracker (960120
Dream : "Get A Job" by Nutcracker (960120)
Dream: "Me? A Composer?" by Nutcracker (960121)
Dream: "Just Trying To Be Helpful" by Nutcracker (960121)
Dream: "Homeless Around The World" by Nutcracker (960122)
Dream: "The Hotel/Part 1: Inadequacy" by Nutcracker
(960122)
Dream: "The Distress Call" by Nutcracker (960122)
Dream: "The Hotel /Part 2: Can't Find My Room" by
Nutcracker (960122)
Dream: "Let The Good Times Roll" by Nutcracker (960123)
Dream: "Please Release Me" by Nutcracker (960124)
Dream: "End Of The World" by Nutcracker (960124)
Dream: "Government Weasels" by Nutcracker (960125)
Dream: "Snoopy Guest" by Nutcracker (960125)
Dream: "UPC Code" by Nutcracker (960126)
Dream: "The Contest" by Nutcracker (960126)
Dream: ":-) " by Nutcracker (960127)
Dream: "Return To Sender by Nutcracker (960127)
Dream: "Cyber Thief" by Nutcracker (960128)
Dream: "Share & Share Alike" by Nutcracker (960128)
Dream: "Family Pets" by Nutcracker (960128)
Dream: "Oh Come All Ye Faithful" by Nutcracker (960129)
Dream: "Ms. Fix It" by Nutcracker (960129)
Dream: "Displaced Hostility" by Nutcracker (960129)
Dream: "Silly Me" by Nutcracker (960129)
Dream: "The After Christmas Sale" by Nutcracker (960130)
Dream: "Pass The Ketchup, Please" by Nutcracker (960130)
Dream: "Papal Visit" by Nutcracker (960201)
Dream: "B-B-Q Pigskin Anyone? by Nutcracker (960201)
Dream: "Editorializing" by Nutcracker (960201)
Dream: "Buy Something, Get A Date" by Nutcracker (960201)
Dream: "I'm So Confused" by Nutcracker (960201)
Dream: "New Currency" by Nutcracker (960202)
Dream: "The Toadies" by Nutcracker (960202)
Dream: "The Elevator - Part 1" by Nutcracker (960202)
Dream: "Obey Me" by Nutcracker (960204)
Dream: "The Elevator - Part 2" by Nutcracker (960205)
Dream: "The Party" by Nutcracker (960207)
Dream: "Ouch" by Nutcracker (960207)
Adios!
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Notes from the Editors
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We have had a tremendous amount of new subscribers this
month and so I want to first of all welcome you to Electric
Dreams and Dreaming online in general. What is Electric
Dreams and what do we do here? It is really up to you. Or
us. We have generally been providing a free forum for
sharing and discussing dreams and dreaming and will
continue along that general guideline. But the specifics of
what happens are something we mutually choose together.
For those of you that are new, I want to mention that much
of what happens is not always visible from this monthly e-
zine. Besides the free forum (of which I will say more in
a moment) we also experiment with dream sharing and the
dissemination of dream information along wide variety of
online or Internet venues. But we are more of a
*community* than an information service. And I want to
welcome you to the community and connect you with the
projects that will best unfold your unique essence. For
some it will be sharing dreams and comments. For others it
will be sharing research and for still others it may be
discussion of vital issue in dreaming, dream art, dreams
and literature, movies, and philosophy. Whatever your
interests, drop us a line and we'll try to connect you with
that part of the community.
Please note that Electric Dreams is a free forum. By
this I don't mean that it's inexpensive, (though this is
still true) but that you are free to express your feelings
and ideas on dreams and dreaming without censorship. In
the next few issues, we will have more to say about what
this means in terms of our shared responsibilities and
joint commitments. For now, I just want everyone to
recognize that it is *you* who are the final authority on
the meaning and value of your life and dreams.
Richard Wilkerson
Leap Year!!
The month and a half since the last issue has leapt by me
faster than the blink of an eye. It's difficult realizing
that the common experience of a birthday every year does
not apply (technically) to those born on February 29th.
They only get to celebrate their real birthdays every four
years.
There's some deep thought provoking philosophical gem
hidden in there somewhere. A dream-type mystery having to
do with cycles, adjustments, and balance. On that note, it
seems like it has been at least four years since our last
issue. Thanks for your patience. The next one will be out
sooner.
Thanks for reading and sending in the dreams and
commentaries.
Bob K.
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Questions, Answers, Replies, and Just Plain Fun
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O.K. Top ten dream songs:
1) All I Have To Do Is Dream Everly Bros.
2) California Dreamin' The Mamas & the Papas
3) Bob Dylan's 115th Dream Bob Dylan
3b) I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine Bob Dylan
4) If I Can Dream Elvis Presley
5) Dream Lover Bobby Darin
6) Day-Dream The Lovin' Spoonful
7) Dreams Fleetwood Mac
8) I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night The Eectric Prunes
9) Golden Slumbers The Beatles (cheated)
10) Dream A Little Dream Of Me Cass Elliot
Well, that's all we can think of right now. How about you?
See you later.
Best, Nancy, Darryl, & Ronnie
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Looking for volunteers! If you are interested in being
part of the Electric Dreams staff, drop us a line.
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Dreams, Censorship and the new Telecommunications Act
By Richard Wilkerson
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If you didn't realize that the new Telecommunications Act
of 1996 had any thing to do with dreams, you might want to
read this. While the Act mostly contains long overdue
reform that will increase global access options and make
for a better lifestyle, the tacked on Section 223 about
what is indecent and illegal in Cyberspace is so broad that
it covers online discussion of dreams that refer to not
only to sexual acts and body orifices but also to mentions
of abortion. The authors claim that the intention was to
protect children from pornography, but it technically makes
all online discussion in these topics a criminal act. Some
large commercial carriers have already blocked access to
newsgroups.
Whatever your position on this historic Act may be, you can
find out more online. There is a resource guide available
at URL: http://bell.com/hrconf.html
If you would like to join the Blue Ribbon Anti-Censorship
Campaign, check out the URL:
http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html
If you find that your service provider is blocking access
to the newsgroups on dreams and dreaming, you can bypass
this by :
1. Downloading one of the freely available Usenet readers
via the Web, such as FREE AGENT for the PC
ftp://ftp.forteninc.com/pub/free_agent/fagnet10.zip or
NEWSWATCHER for Macs
ftp://ftp.acns.nwu.edu/pub/newswatcher/
2. Via the Web, find an Internet site that offers public
access to Usenet. There is a list of these at
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~jwa/open-sites.html
3. Establish a PPP connection to the Internet via your
commercial service or ISP provider. On AOL you will need to
download the Winsock program to allow this. (Keyword:
Winsock) On CompuServe they provide a CompuServe Dialer.
4. Start the Usenet reader program and point to the chosen
address. You will now have the option of reading the dream
newsgroups of your choice, be that alt.dreams,
alt.dreams.lucid or even the scandalous
alt.dreams.casteneda.
Another approach is via e-mail. In this method you will get
a list of newsgroup posts to the newsgroup you selected,
and a new path associated with each post. To READ a post,
just send back the below commands with the path you want to
read.
To Post
To: newsgroup@news.demon.co.uk
or newsgroup@cs.ttu.edu
OR e-mail to : gopher@nig.ac.jp
or
gopher@ncc.go.jp
In BODY:
x1
Numb=1
Type=1
Port =4324 (or 4320)
Path =nntp ls *put newsgroup name here, without asterisks*
Host=pinchy.micro.umn.edu (or infopub.uqam.ca)
And here is one I haven't tired, but found in the 1996
April _Internet World_ which suggests simply using a web
browser and going to
http://www.w3.org/hypertext/DataSources?News/Groups/Overvie
w.html
In the upcoming issue of Electric Dreams we will be
focusing more on your rights as an individual in Cyberspace
to share your dreams and other experiences.
Richard.
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ASD Home Page Update
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The Home Page for the Association for the Study of Dreams
continues to grow. If the Journal section is not up by the
time you read this, it will be up shortly. While the
articles themselves will not be released, the titles *and*
abstracts will be available online. If you are interested
in any area of dreaming and want to track down the most
current research on this, try first locating the article in
the _Dreaming_ Journal. You will be richly rewarded by
authors who have gone to the trouble of going through all
the current journals on the topic and summarizing the
research and laying out the relevant points and counter
points.
http://www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd/
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Dream Network Journal Update
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As you know, the Dream Network Journal is now online and is
extending its ability to act as a voice for the dream
movement. Now, in the next upcoming issue, there will be a
special focus on Now, in the next upcoming issue, there
will be a special focus on *Dreams
and Community*. Be sure to get a copy of this issue!
To order a subscription, back issues or "The Art of
Dreamsharing & Developing Dreams Groups" booklet, call
(800) 861-3732 or drop by the Web site at:
http://waking.com/waking/dream/order-form.html
What, you never heard of the Dream Network Journal!?!
From Roberta Ossana on the DreamNet Web Page:
Dear Dreamer,
Thank you for your interest in your dreams and in the
Dream Network.
As more of us awaken to the truth and value presented each
night in our dreams, it becomes increasingly desirable to
learn to understand dreams' unique language, the language
of symbol and metaphor. With the growing evidence of our
longing -- and *need* -- to comprehend the necessity of
mythology, it becomes evermore compelling to understand
*where* we lost it and *how* we can *reclaim the mythic
life*.
The _Dream Network_ is published to help in fulfilling
these intrinsic human needs. Initiated in 1982, the DN has
served as the ground upon which the foundation for the
growing 'dream movement' is building, internationally.
It is our purpose to demystify dreamwork so as to make the
meaning of our dreams more readily available to each of us,
believing every dream remembered desires to be understood
and each dream conveys information that is of positive
value toward our good health and well-being. Even our
nightmares!
Though we aspire to maintain a high level of scholarship,
_Dream Network_ is not an academic journal per se and is
not affiliated with any academic institution, organization
or theoretical disposition; rather, we remain eclectic and
open to all schools of thought and personal experience.
Together, we explore the mystery.
Our goal is to remain an interactive publication, actively
engaging readers and sharing our unique messages with an
increasingly interested readership. We enthusiastically
invite Responses/Letters, dream or myth related
manuscript/articles, poetry and art work.
Each issue of Dream Network contains sections on The Art
of Dream Sharing and Dream Education, the Mythic Dimension
and articles which respond to Questions posed in previous
issues.
In each issue, there is a listing of over 55
Networkers/Contact persons, available to provide
dream-related information, resources and assistance in
initiating a dreamsharing relationship or a dream group.
Our Classified section offers DNJ readers the opportunity
to network, learn and explore with other dreamers,
internationally.
Please be openheartedly invited to join us in
reintroducing this deeply valuable, cross-cultural, common
human experience into your life/our culture. It is here,
now.... and it is about the Power of Dreams! <p>
Choose to explore the mystery with us!
To the wisdom and power of our dreams,
H. Roberta Ossana, Editor & Publisher
DREAMSKEY@delphi.com
Phone: (801) 461-9003 for further information
or1-800-861-3732 for MC/Visa/AmEx Subscription Orders only,
please.
Dream Network @PO Box 1026, Moab, UT 84532
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The Gestalt Approach to Dreams - Rick Bouchard
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One of the most simple and fruitful techniques for working
with a dream is the Gestalt Approach to Dreams. It takes
relatively little effort and usually renders results
instantly, which is the reason for its appeal.
Take the following snippet from a larger dream:
>I am looking out the window and noticing the
sunshine.
I am happy that the parade will not be rained on. <
Now, I will slowly re-read the dream aloud, but this time,
inserting the words "part of me" after each noun. The same
dream now reads:
>I am looking out the window, part of me, and noticing
the sunshine, part of me. I am happy. The happy,
part of me,
is glad that the parade, part of me, will not be
rained on
(or, will not experience the rain, part of me). <
One purpose of this technique is to help the dreamer
identify with the various aspects of the dream and,
therefore, the different parts of her/himself represented
by these dream images. In other words, why did "psyche"
choose a window, and not a door.....sunshine as
opposed to moonlight, and a parade, as opposed to a caravan
or convoy? As this technique comes more easily to you, you
can get more creative with which words, and, therefore,
which "parts" of you, that you suffix with the words, "part
of me."
Pleasant Dreams.<< Rick
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Play Host to Your Dreams - an Aizenstat Procedure
From Henry Reed
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Have you had dreams in which the energy from the dream
seems to stay with you all day? A new method of working
with your dreams specifically invites that energy. It
encourages you to allow the dream images to participate in
an active manner within your thoughts. The method is
called "hosting," as Dr. Stephen Aizenstat, currently
president of Pacifica Graduate Institute, developed it as
part of his teaching on what he calls dream crafting. The
purpose is to help the dreamer to more fully understand and
integrate the messages the dream presents. In his own
words:
"Dream crafting is simply using your ability to hear deeply
the stories of the dreamtime; to see and wonder about the
figures of the dreamscape; and to let whatever is inside
the dream come out and live... To 'craft' a dream
imaginally is to experience the figures of your dreams as
guests. If you extend your hospitality to them --become
their host-- they will reveal their mysteries and their
messages with you."
There are eight basic steps to "hosting" a dream:
. . 1) Remembering --pay attention not only to the essence
or plot of the dream, but also to any particulars which
include all of the senses. What is the dream like
visually, auditorially, kinesthetically?
. . 2) Recording --express the dream in the present tense,
both in writing and in speaking the dream, and use whatever
methods of presentation feel important in sharing and being
with the dream. These methods may include writing,
painting, dancing, singing, working with clay, acting it
out, etc. Become immediately involved in the dreamscape.
. . 3) Listening poetically --become aware of the uses of
symbolic language, metaphors, puns, and rhymes.
. . 4) Becoming curious --notice patterns and allow
interaction with the energy of the images. What is new or
surprising?
. . 5) Recollecting --recall events and waking-life
circumstances, making personal associations and
connections. However, use caution not to speak about the
images, but allow the personal information to speak through
the images.
. . 6) Exploring themes --investigate related myths, fairy
tales, or legends for any similarities, and allow these to
expand your encounter with the dream images.
. . 7) Listening --let there be some silence so that the
dream messenger may speak on its own behalf.
. . 8) Listening again and again --allow the dream images
to continue to communicate even after the "work" seems to
be complete. The important aspect of hosting is not to
interpret the dream, but rather to be with the dream.
Honor impressions, personal associations, and intuitive
knowing about the dream images as part of the whole dream.
Allow the dream images to have their own energy and notice
the impact that this energy has, not just on the dreamer
but to others who might hear the dream as well.
Hosting a dream image, especially dream animals, allows
the dream figure its own identity. This process takes those
images from being merely symbols of something in our lives
to energies unto themselves. An extremely valuable result
from this type of dreamwork is that we can learn about
troubled species or other elements within our world. We
can more fully realize that indeed we are all
interconnected. Once the initial hosting process is
initiated, an added benefit to this type of work is that
the dream figure's energy is invited to continue to
influence and affect the dreamer on an ongoing basis.
Hosting prolongs the life of the dream and continues its
effects into our waking life. For further information about
dream crafting, contact Dr. Stephen Aizenstat at 249
Lambert Road, Carpinteria, CA 93013. [Report filed by
Rosemary Watts-Dreyer, Atlantic University.]
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Dream Studio Schedule
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The Dream Studio is a live online discussion group in
Compuserve's New Age Forum. Hosted by Donna LoCicero
Campos and Paul TMB, the Dream Studio meets each Monday
night at 10:00pm Eastern Time and 7:00pm Pacific and looks
at a variety of dream-related topics.
This is a wonderful forum to get to know a wide variety of
dream personalities.
Donna LoCicero Campos
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Feb. 5: The Art of Flying
Feb. 12: Dreams of Dolphins and Whales. . . with Trisha
Lamb Feuerstein
Feb. 19: Dream Analysis
Feb. 26: Mutual Dreams. . . with Linda Lane Magallon
Mar. 4: The Moon, the Planets and Dreams with
astrologer Tom Fox
Mar. 11: Dreamwork . . . with Angelxpert
Mar. 18: Precognitive Dreams. . . with the Premonition
Central Registry
Mar. 25: Dreaming with Computers . . . with the Applied
Dream Institute
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Dream Ahead '96 Linda Magallon
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Communal Magic is the name for this year's group dreaming
project of the Fly-By-Night Club. If you link your dreams
with those of your fellow dreamers, you can help the FBNC
incubate an upcoming waking state event and an ongoing
dream continuum as well.
Follow the suggestions in this newsletter and you will aid
in the preparation, seeding and watering of a special field
of dreams which will flower in the summer. The culmination
of our efforts will occur at the 1996 ASD conference. The
Association for the Study of Dreams will be meeting at the
Claremont Hotel in Berkeley, California from July 9th-13th.
But you can play along, whether you will be physically
present at the conference or not! Communal Magic has
several phases.
Dream Ahead '96 gathers psychic and create-our-own-reality
archetypal dreams, prior to July. In this newsletter are
tips and goals to help hone your incubation, precognitive
and social dreaming skills.
The Magical Mutual Ballroom is the focus for shared
dreaming. The goal is to dream of meeting your fellow
revelers at the Dream Ball (which occurs in waking reality
at the Claremont Hotel Ballroom on Saturday evening, July
13th).
The Flying Carpet will be a mural on the wall of the
Claremont Hotel conference Communal Dream Room. This
homebase will be the collection point of our social
collage, the framework for our group dream "painting." And
you help can "paint," literally, by contributing pictures,
drawings, and the like. Or you can "paint" word pictures
with written dream reports, poetry, comments and graffiti.
The Flying Carpet will include the entire Dream Ahead '96
collection as well as dreams dreamt during the conference
period. Because there will be computer connections at the
Claremont, if you are at a distance, you will be able to
send in dreams via modem to CaseyFlyer@aol.com.
Bit and pieces will come together and form our visual
record of the gathering, before it literally happens and
while it is symbolically unfolding. It will be interesting
to see how much preconference dreaming incubates the actual
waking event. How much magic will we invite into our lives?
Select dreamlets and artwork received from Dream Ahead '96
will be published as a Dream Ahead '96 Sampler in the
Spring NightFlyer (newsletter of the Fly-By-Night Club). A
synopsis of the events, as well as corresponding dream
elements, will be published after the conference in the
Summer NightFlyer.
A title, date and your full name or pseudonym on your dream
reports will help distinguish each special dream. Typed
records are easiest for your fellow dreamers to read.
Remember-all dream-inspired artistic productions are
welcome, too!
Send to Dream Flights, 1083 Harvest Meadow Court, San Jose,
CA 95136 or to CaseyFlyer@aol.com.
The Two Dream Programs
Once upon a time in the future there was, is and will be a
communal gathering. This gathering takes place in that
creative region where intuition turns into imagery, ideas
become symbols and from which the known universe arises.
The communal gathering plays in the theater of dreams in
two forms. One is literal, the other symbolic. Both
programs feature celebration, social connection and
merrymaking in The Magical Mutual Ballroom.
Literal Dreaming
If your dreaming mind selects the program marked "literal,"
then your Communal Magic dreams will correspond to the
actual event in the Claremont Hotel Ballroom. In this case
your magic will manifest itself in those traditional
psychic dreams called precognitive, clairvoyant or
telepathic. Because the Dream Ball is already in the
planning stage and because it already exists in the minds
of folks who will attend in the waking state, the psychic
blueprints are available now for dream viewing. Your own
dreaming self can serve as a roaming reporter. Whether
using video camera or still shots, your dreaming mind can
reveal one piece (or several!) of the giant Dream Ball
picture puzzle.
Perhaps you might picture a winning costume for the Dream
Ball. Or maybe you'll see a fellow reveler who will be
there. Or maybe you'll dream of the Claremont Ballroom
itself.
What happens at a literal Dream Ball? Music, dancing,
talking. Drinks and often food munching. The awarding of
ribbons for the dream telepathy contest and for the best
costumes. A social, fun gathering at the conference end.
Archetypal Dreaming
But do you have literal-mundane dreams all the time? Does
your dreaming self ever shape shift, scene shift, go
through walls or travel through time? Do you want to find
out? Then target the Magical Mutual Ballroom in the
archetypal conference.
If your dreaming mind selects the tape marked "symbolic,"
then you will unwrap the surface facade to reveal the magic
within. For symbolic dreamers, the hall does not have to
comply with physical attributes. The activities or
appearance of the dreaming selves are not limited to what
is possible in the waking state.
Other mutual projects have already provided a sneak peek
into this ongoing Big Dream communal gathering. A synopsis
of past archetypal dreams will be posted on the Flying
Carpet. Past projects revealed that each symbolic dreamer
paints an inner picture which is an individual variation on
the main theme. But over time, some elements of this
long-playing theater of the mind are found to be held in
common:
Scenery and props (color, furniture, hall attributes)
Characters (hair color, costume)
Story line (activities)
I'll give you a hint about one favorite activity at this
level of existence. The Magical Mutual Ballroom is where
the super selves gather. In the archetypal version of the
Magical Mutual Ballroom, it is possible to fly.
Dream Ahead Goals
These are suggested goals to give you the flavor of the
event. Try as many or few as you wish or come up with some
creative variations or combinations of your own. Do them
any time. (Consult your dreaming self for the best
results!)
#1: Invite The Dreaming Self To Step Forward
Ask your dreaming self, "Will you let your magic shine?"
This goal might give you some ideas for a literal outfit to
wear to the Dream Ball. But you can also use a variation to
preview either the costumes or inner selves of fellow
revelers.
#2: Dream Up The Magical Mutual Ballroom
Ask your dreaming self, "What's your favorite social
arena?" Use this goal to see if you picture shared space
similarly to fellow symbolic dreamers. Or incubate a
precognitive dream to preview the literal ballroom.
#3: Greet Your Dream Companions
Ask your dreaming self, "What type of friendly interaction
do we prefer?" Dream up a scene in which you socialize with
the folks in your dream. Say hello, hug, shake hands, wave,
smile, talk.
#4: Practice Flying!
Need we tell you why? Try dual flying or group flying for a
change.
ALERT! April 20th is the due date to send in your dreams
and drawings for possible publication in the NightFlyer
Dream Ahead '96 Sampler.
The Magical Mutual Ballroom: Dated Goals
Now that we've learned our parts and created the scenery,
costumes and props in the dream theater, it's time for
dress rehearsal. Mark these dates on your calendar.
#5: Dress Rehearsal of the Flying Dreamers: Saturday, May
18th
This is the in-dream meeting at the Magical Mutual Ballroom
of the Fly-By-Night Club to practice antics for the final
event. What shall we do? Sing the FBNC anthem? Dance in the
air? Tell jokes? Discuss dreamwork? Nah, too boring.
#6: Dress Rehearsal of the Participants at the Conference:
Wednesday, July 10th
This is the date when ASD conference attendees will be
first introduced to the Communal Magic group dreaming
project in a conference presentation at the Communal Dream
Room. They will view the Flying Carpet and be invited to
dream together that night. You can dream along with them,
too, if you wish.
#7: Grand Finale-Dream Ball at the Claremont Hotel:
Saturday, July 13th
Meet in the waking state; meet in the dream.
Dream Ahead Tips
Incubation Exercise
(This exercise is inspired by the work of Alan Vaughan
(author of The Power of Positive Prophecy, HarperCollins,
1991) and Marcia Rose Emery (author of Dr. Marcia Emery's
Intuition Workbook, Prentice Hall).
Write out or dictate on a tape recorder instructions such
as these before going to bed:
"Hello, dreaming self. Please show me a simple picture I
can understand. I will arise early in the morning with the
dream picture fresh in my mind. I shall be able to remember
it easily and write it down. Its meaning will become clear
to me. I will honor your opinion, dreaming self."
About Time Shift
Remember, time is loose in dream reality! You know about
precognitive and retrocognitive dreams. Also recall that an
incubation can take time to manifest a dream response. Then
realize that a dated goal is an incubation.
Mutual goal dates mean that on a particular night, group
intent will provide a strong synergistic shot of energy to
be "sent" out into the universe. But just as there can be a
time delay in receiving mail, so your own mind receiver may
not turn on and tune into the energy until you are
psychologically prepared to receive it.
So if you do not get a dream on a specified date, don't
give up! Try again. In mutual dreaming, the most important
question is not, did I time it right? Your best clue is to
ask yourself, does this dream have that special social
flavor? That's the dream you send in to
Dream Flights
1083 Harvest Meadow Court
San Jose, CA 95136
CaseyFlyer@aol.com
* Cynthia Pearson reports that the Friends In Pennsylvania
have agreed to write the lyrics to the Fly-By-Night Club
anthem! The melody, you already know. It's the theme from
the "Mickey Mouse Club." Tune up your windpipes: the song
should be ready for our first waking state Fly-By-Night
Club Meeting in July at ASD '96.
* There are plans for a Costume Creation and Assembling
event at the '96 ASD Conference in preparation for the
Dream Ball. It will take place in the Communal Dream Room
on Saturday afternoon, July 13th. Linda Lane Magallon is
collecting costumes, cloth and sewing material and art
materials for this event.
* For more information about the Conference, contact The
Association for the Study of Dreams, PO Box 1600, Vienna,
VA, 22183.
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Web Dream Class from Jayne Gackenbach April 8 -> May 10
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Unlock the Secrets of Your Dreams
Written by Jayne Gackenbach, Ph.D.
Offered on the Internet from Grant MacEwan Community
College
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We need your help to test the beta version of a
noncredit introductory dream class designed for the
Internet. You will need access to the Internet (World Wide
Web), an e-mail address and 3 to 5 hours per lesson. There
is no cost to you for helping us refine this Internet
course. Each lesson is accompanied by an assignment. You
will learn to interpret and work with your own dreams both
alone and in an electronic group session.
Class starts April 8, 1996 and ends May 10, 1996.
You have one week to complete each lesson and assignment
before you are given access to the next lesson and
assignment. After you have completed an assignment you will
receive feedback on the assignment about a week later.
Enrollment is limited so please register soon.
Register at: http://www.outreach.org/dreams/register
Lesson 1
Introduction to Dreaming
Importance of Dreams; Historical Views of Dreaming;
Basic Types of Sleep; Enhancing Dream Recall; Techniques
for Dream Diarying
Lesson 2
Most Peoples Dreams
Does Content Imply Meaning?; You Own Your Own
Dream; Sex Differences in Dream Content; Dream Reality
Lesson 3
Tools and Techniques
The "Aha" Experience; The Language of Dreams is
Metaphor; Why Are We Blank to Our Own Metaphors in Dreams?;
Dreamwork Techniques
Lesson 4
Dream Connectedness
Grassroots Dream Interest; Cree Dream Shaman;
Dream Research with Cree; Archetypal Dreams; Dream Diary of
a Catholic Monk; Lucid Dreams
Lesson 5
Selected Topics
Nightmares Following Trauma; Psychological Aspects
of Ordinary Nightmares; Childhood Sexual Abuse Nightmares;
Health and Dreams; Psychic Dreams
Biographical Statement: Dr. Gackenbach has authored/edited
five books on dreams and is a past-president of the
Association for the Study of Dreams. She has over 70
professional publications/presentations about dreams and
was invited to present her work on lucid dreams to the
Dalai Lama in India. Most recently she has been working
with a Cree dream shaman. One of her books was featured on
the cover of Psychology Today and she has appeared in the
media including the Donahue Show. Her Ph.D. is in general
experimental psychology and she teaches at Grant MacEwan
Community College.
Jayne Gackenbach, Ph.D.
jgackenb@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca
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GLOBAL DREAMING NEWS March 15, 1996
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A joint project of Electric Dreams and The Novato Center
for Dreams, coordinated by the Wilkerson DreamGate, an
International Internet Dream Community Center (IIDCC)
project. Send all dream news to Richard Wilkerson,
rwilkerson@igc.apc.org
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DREAM ART EXHIBITION DEADLINES
JEREMY TAYLOR ONLINE at AOL
DREAM CLASSES ON INTERNET
KEN KELZER SEMINAR
TRACKS IN THE WILDERNESS OF DREAMING - Bosnak
AN AFRICAN PARADIGM: SOMA DREAMS AND THE FAMILY UNCONSCIOUS
by Bynum
Third Annual JUNGIAN WINTER CARIBBEAN Conference
JUNG on IRC
NEW WEB SITES ON DREAMS AND DREAMING
!!!ASD CONFERENCE XIII UPDATE!!!
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DREAM ART EXHIBITION - CALL FOR ENTRIES - MARCH 31 DEADLINE
Original works in any medium that have been inspired by,
or are related to dreams are eligible to be exhibited at
the July 1996 Association for the Study of Dreams
Conference in Berkeley, California, USA.
For information on fees, sales, liability, shipping and
other issues, call ASD at 703-242-8888
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JEREMY TAYLOR ONLINE at AOL:
Jermey Taylor, Dream worker extraordinaire, will be hosting
an early morning daily dreamgroup on AOL on Tuesdays and
Thursdays. There will also be a bulletin board available
for other times. This is all in the new AOL Keyword HUB
area along with DreamWorldNews.
The first of the shows were held in the People Connection,
the Odeon auditorium, but they may move to the special chat
room set up for the DREAM SHOW in the new HUB. See below
for connections.
Tuesday and Thursdays, 9:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
Keyword: DREAM SHOW
(or HUB)
Go to: Channel Zero
Go to : Program Guide
Choose : DreamGroup
To get to the Odeon Auditorium,
Keyword: Odeon
Select Center Stage menu
Select Auditoriums
Select from Today's Live Shows
JEREMY TAYLOR, a past president of the International
Association for the Study of Dreams, teaches at several
colleges, universities, and seminaries. He is the author
of "Dream Work" and "Where People Fly and Water Runs
Uphill--Using Dreams to Tap the Wisdom of the Unconscious."
Taylor has a regular column on dreams in "Creation"
magazine and has published in the
"Association for the Study of Dreams Newsletter," "Shaman's
Drum," "Lotus," "Matrix," and many other magazines and
journals. He was a featured guest on "The Power of Dreams"
series on the Discovery Channel, the "Secret World of
Dreams" prime-time special on NBC, and "Thinking Allowed"
on PBS, and has made many appearances on radio and cable
TV. He is a Unitarian Universalist minister and is
currently at work on a book about archetypes in dreams and
a book about Zen dreamwork. (source AOL & Jeremy Taylor)
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DREAM CLASSES ON INTERNET - Next Class April 1st
Hi - Richard Wilkerson here and I just wanted to tell you
about the dream classes I have been offering online. The
class consists of two parts, e-mail correspondence and
interactive groups. The classes are a 20 set of fun essays
and information on dream sharing from ancient times to
Cyberspace and include online & offline resources for
going further in areas of dream sharing, dream science,
dream anthropology and many other topics, including Freud,
Jung, Perls, Adler, Modern Dreamworkers, lucid dreaming,
dreams and bodywork, much, much more.
Yes, there is a minimal fee of $10.00 which you can snail
mail to me. Money back if you come up with a better class
online or off at the same price! Includes at the end of
the class a free copy of my Dream Guide to the Internet,
worth the price of the class in itself!
If interested in the class drop me the following line
and I'll send you the registration address.
"Richard, please enroll me in your April 1st dreamclass and
send me the syllabus and registration address, thanks"
rwilkerson@igc.apc.org
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SEMINAR/WORKSHOP - Dreams: Meaning and Power Workshop
Ken Kelzer, author of _The Sun and the Shadow_, and Bay
Area psychotherapist has used dreams in therapy for over 25
years. In the meaning and Power workshop you will learn how
to increase and direct your dream recall, deepen
understanding of dream symbols, and use dreams to
strengthen your self-acceptance and positive personal
power. Actual work with participants' dream will be a major
part of the workshop. Journal keeping, Gestalt awareness
training, art media, placing symbolism in life contexts and
other methods to activate the natural healing energies that
come form dreams will be explored.
Santa Rosa, California
March 9th , Sat. 9:30am -4:30 pm 1596 Emeritus Hall SRJC
campus fee: $38.00
Call (707) 527-4371
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From: cbishop@interlog.com (Carroll Bishop)
Subject: Post-Jungian Bible Study Group
Post-Jungian Bible Study Group
Four of us in Toronto have just started reading and
discussing the Bible, beginning with Genesis 1:1-5.
We met for the first time last week for lunch at Hart House
Great Hall at the University, and spent three intense hours
there. Jung, Elaine Pagels, Dante and D.H. Lawrence all
turned up in the conversation. So did the Creative Process
(was the pre-Flood Creation a First Draft?) -- and Harold
Bloom's theory that the Book of J (Yahwist) was written by
a woman, possibly Bathsheba! Milton's words from
_Areopagitica_, bordering the murals around the room,
seemed synchronistic in view of our new adventure, and the
sober, somber portraits of past U. of T. presidents
threatened to smile -- if we could only catch them quickly
enough.
Though we could have spent a year on the Creation,
we're moving right along and are reading for next time
(March 22) Genesis 1:6-19, which includes among others the
Tower of Babel, Noah and the Flood, and Sodom and Gomorrah.
We haven't determined what order we'll follow after
Genesis: the rest of the Pentateuch, the Gospel of Mark,
Paul's Epistles, and the Gnostic Gospels have all been
mentioned. I'm sure we'll return to the Creation -- don't
we all keep doing that?
At the least, we're acquainting or reacquainting
ourselves with one of the world's greatest books, both as
literature and as sacred text. We want the group and its
individual members to be comfortable in the process, and
we're talking about ways to ensure that is what happens.
If anyone is interested in participating in a
similar study group by e-mail or mailing list (lists?), let
me know by e-mail. In the meantime, you're of course
welcome to follow our reading schedule and post any
comments or discoveries to the address below. We'd love to
hear them!
Carroll Bishop (cbishop@interlog.com )
THE NEW ENGLAND SOCIETY OF JUNGIAN ANALYSTS is pleased to
announce its Public Program for Spring 1996. All events
are open to the public and will be held at the C.G. Jung
Institute-Boston.
TRACKS IN THE WILDERNESS OF DREAMING
Lecture by Robert Bosnak, JD, IAAP
Friday, Mar. 8, 8:00-10:00 PM.
Dreaming is a reality surrounding us from all sides, while
we know absolutely nothing about the creation of dreams.
Dream worlds are true wilderness; unknown lands in
undiscovered continents. Dreamwork gives dreamers tracking
tools to reenter the dreaming wilderness and experience the
surrounding reality once again. This practical dreamwork
demonstration - work with a participant's dream - will be
framed by the presenter's conversation with an Australian
Aboriginal dream doctor.
AN AFRICAN PARADIGM: SOMA DREAMS AND
THE FAMILY UNCONSCIOUS
Workshop by Edward Bruce Bynum, Ph.D.
Saturday, Mar. 9, 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM.
In the traditional African perspective, family life and
dream life enfold one another. This perspective has
enormous clinical value not yet fully appreciated in
Western science and psychotherapy. This workshop covers
the history of dream interpretation in Africa, Europe and
Ancient America. It will explore, from the African
Paradigm, how dreams reflect individual and family
unconscious dynamics, including their somatic and
psychological expressions. Using this functional
understanding of family dynamics as a backdrop, the
practicing clinician will be able to use dreams to reframe,
restructure and intervene in family, couple and individual
therapy. A clinical demonstration will follow the
theoretical discussion.
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Third Annual JUNGIAN WINTER CARIBBEAN Conference
Barbados, West Indies
March 2-8 Archetypes: Eternal or Evolving
March 8-12 Clinical Applications of Jungian Psychology
Faculty for the two separate but related seminars include:
Michael Conforti, Ph.D.
Mario Jacoby, Ph.D.
Aryeh Maidenbaum, Ph.D.
Mara Sidoli, Psy.A., L.C.C.
June Singer, Ph.D.
Conference site is the beautiful Tamarind Cove in St.
James, Barbados. One conference fee includes all
presentations and workshops, hotel, meals, ect.
Please e-mail or call/fax for more information as soon as
possible
given the late date! Assisi Conferences and Seminars
assisi@sover.net
802/348-6628 (v/f)
Source: David Oswald mainau@aol.com
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JUNG on IRC
Just a little message for telling you that anytime
you want to
discuss live on Jungian psychology, you can reach the
channel #jung-on-irc
on irc. If you want more info there is a web page about
this group:
http://www.cgjung.com/cgjung/ircproj2.html
Source: Jean-Francois Vezina
aaa198@agora.ulaval.ca ( President of the Jungian Circle
of Quebec)
Tel and Fax:(418) 688-JUNG
C.P. 38018, Co.P. M.Bourgeois
Quebec,Canada G1S 2N0
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NEW WEB SITES ON DREAMS AND DREAMING
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Sominal Times, the Mensa Dream magazine, now has a sight
online and you may want to check this out and find out how
to sign up for a subscription. Nice Graphics!
Sominal Times URL:
http://snoopy.acc.iit.edu:80/~banymic/somnial/
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Labor is an art project developing from dreams. We will
hopefully have a full article on this project next issue,
but in the meantime, drop by at
Labor URL:
http://www-iwi.unisg.ch/~art/labor/
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Scott Hughes, author of the dream book _Inner Light, Your
Fantasies and Dreams_ has provided you with a Web page
"Hues of Inner Light" at URL:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/scoty
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The Association for Research and Enlightenment
Dreams and Dream Interpretation
The Edgar Cayce readings tell us that dreams have been
given to us for our benefit.
Because we are spiritual beings, we have the potential to
experience many different levels
of awareness while in the dream state from which we may
gain insights about all aspects of
our life: physical, mental, and spiritual. Here is the Web
site with more dream information and links to other ARE
information.
http://www.ip.net/are/dreams.html
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Hard-Headed Dream Context Analysis.
Bill Domhoff and Adam Schneider have launched a new dream
research site. The new site, _The Quantitative Study of
Dreams_, (QSD) brings to the Internet a whole tradition
dream research currently being taught the University of
California at Santa Cruz that going back to Calvin Hall's
work in the 1940's. Nice Graphics too.
If you would like to see a preview of an upcoming interview
with Bill and Adam about the site, get the article in the
DreamGate Gopher under Dream Cyberphile Spring 1996.
gopher://gopher.igc.apc.org:70/11/orgs/iidcc/articles/6
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Dream Classes from Spectrum University
Spectrum university, an online Web campus, offers a class
on dreaming you may wish to check out.
There are four classes and some interactive processes -
really neat!
How to get there....
http://horizons.org/campus.cgi
Select class 702: Dreams: Key to your Inner Self
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Association for the Study of Dreams Conference XIII in
Berkeley, California July 9-13.
Join psychotherapist, scholars, artists, authors and
dreamworkers from all over the world for five days of
workshops, lectures, research presentations, art exhibits,
and performances that examine the nature of dreams and the
healing influence dreams present through personal study,
traditional and non-traditional psychotherapy, and the
expressive arts.
Who going to be there?
Well, how about Deirdre Barrett, John Beebe, Fariba
Bogzaran, Robert Bosnak, Kelley Bulkeley, Gayle Delaney,
William Dement, Bill Domhoff, Patricia Garfield, Jayne
Gackenbach, Jill Gregory, Earnest Hartmann, Edward Hoffman,
Bob Hoss, Stanely Keleman, Johanna King, Milton Kramer,
Stanley Krippner, Barry Ktakow, Stephen LaBerge, Barbara
Meier, Linda Magallon, Robert Moss, Fred Olsen, Roberta
Ossana, Henry Reed, Joanne Rochon, Carol S. Rupprecht,
Linda Share, June Singer, Alan Siegel, Jeremy Taylor,
Robert Van de Castle, Richard Wilkerson, Fred Allen Wolf
and many, many more!
This year your can get 21 CE and MCEP Credits!
The conference site is the sumptuous Claremont Resort which
is complete with pool, tennis courts, and a newly remodeled
spa. The Claremont sits in the Berkeley Hills like a white
castle with a magnificent view of the Golden Gate and
overlooks San Francisco with its natural beauty, cultural
monuments and artistic diversity.
Special rates starting at $95.00/night on rooms if you
register before June 6, 1996. Claremont (800) 551-7266
For information or brochure, contact The Association for
the Study of Dreams
WWW URL: http://www.outreach.org/gmcc/asd/
PO box 1600-P Vienna, VA 22183 (703) 242-0062 or (703)
242-8888
ASD Conference XIII Hotline (510) 869-4066
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My Dream Site of the Month:
By Bob
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http://www.sonic.net/~williams/dream.html
Angie has done a superb job in linking dream related issues
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Commentary on Shadow's "The Good Shepherd" (EDv3n1) by Jay
(960123)
if this were my dream...
this seems to be a theme of my and others dreams, hanging
around churches. in this dream i show my animus how the
church i knew as a child has changed, or instead, perhaps,
how my perception and understanding of it has changed. it
used to seem so big and overpowering. now i see (as i
examine the floor in detail) how many different threads or
details there are in its structure, how rich and variegated
it is.
animus has different interests, however. he is interested
in camping out in the woods and pickup trucks with powerful
engines.
Jay
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THE WHALE TRILOGY by Sarah
Hi Bob,
I met and spoke with Richard Wilkerson at a conference at
SFMOMA a few weeks ago. I work for the Center for
Electronic Art designing web sites. I have a web site right
now that has some of my dreams about whales on it along
with art work.
Richard suggested that I submit my dreams to your e-zine.
If you are interested I have included my dreams below. They
are they same ones as on my site which can be found at
http://www.cea.edu/sarah/
Hope they are of some interest and that you can publish
them. Let me know if you do and if you need more
information.
Thanks
Sarah
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JACKING IN
I dreamt I was on a plane that had been high jacked.
Looking out of the window, I watched the sea approach as we
flew out over the ocean. Down below a group of whales were
swimming in circles in the water, one over the other. Their
disorientation was disturbing yet it captivated me. I could
not believe how beautiful they were. The plane began to
lose altitude bringing us closer and closer to the whales
until the belly of the plane was almost skimming the water.
Unaware, the whales below us thrashed against the plane,
tearing a hole into it's body and bringing us down into the
water with them. I knew we would sink and join them.
SINKING
I am on the bow of an enormous cargo ship in the middle of
the ocean. In a huge trench which is dug into the outer
perimeter of the deck, two small adolescent whales are
gleefully racing each other round and round the ship. I
watch them as they bound and jump playfully over each
other, completely absorbed in their game. In their
enthusiasm the whales leap up out of the trench into the
sea causing our boat to tip sideways into the water. Then
quietly, instead of righting itself, the boat slips into
the sea behind them. I begin to panic as we sink under
water fearing I won't be able to breathe, fearing I will
drown. My friend motions to me that we will be fine,
indicating we have an oxygen tank to share. I lose my fear
as she passes me a hit of clean air and I meld into the
silences of being underwater. Cutting through the green
filtered light above the whales swim by.
REDEMPTION
I stand on the stone bridge over one of the ancient pools
of some long forgotten spa tucked into a valley beneath
enormous mountains in South America. The pools no longer
empty, ring with the squeals of children playing and the
chatter of those watching over them. The water is not the
clear blue of the chlorinated pools of the YMCA but a dark
mineral green. A green so old that in its opacity one
could find reflected the primordial swamps, lakes and
backwaters of the ancient world, infinitely deep and
unfathomable. It is suddenly apparent that these waters
are teaming with life, all the ancient creatures of the sea
have taken refuge in these small baths in the midst of the
mountains. Larger that any whale, a huge fish with a
pointed nose swims by its radial fin just sweeping out of
the water. Below and around it the water moves with
mysterious dark life. The world oceans could fit in this
confined space and it makes sense. We do not belong in
this water and I rush to help a Hispanic woman and her two
babies up the ramp and onto the cool stone ledge. The
bathers do not seem to be aware of the life teaming these
waters, yet most have cleared out of their own accord. The
fish keep swimming.
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Dream: "Domestic Violence and
Toilets" by Shadow (960122)
I am standing near the nurse's desk with some co-workers.
The unit is very active. There are many patients (men,
women, children). A six foot plus man comes walking from
the patient room end of the unit toward the day area. I am
not sure why, but I stand in his way and tell him that he
needs to stay away from the day area. I also tell him that
all the other patients need to stay down at the room end as
well. The man does not listen to me and pushes past me.
He looks very angry and I feel intense negative feelings in
him. I know that he and the other patients have grouped
together against us (staff). I hear a loud slap from one
of the rooms. I am angry. I run down to the room and
throw the door open. Inside there are many people. They
are dressed in old, dirty, torn clothing. I see the woman
who has been struck. I walk toward a man who I presume is
her husband. I realize, however, that he is not the one
who hit her. Instead it was her son, who is about two
years old. I grab the kid and take him down to the chart
room. There I try to ask him why he hit his mom. As I am
talking to him I notice that he is dirty and has not been
cared for very well. There are other staff members
standing around. They offer no verbal opinions, but I
sense that they think the child will not be able to
verbalize anything worth while. I stand up with the child
and leave the chart room. After a brief awakening I return
to sleep and to the same place, if not the same dream. I
am, again, at work. I go to use the restroom and I find
that it has been re-decorated. I like the new look, but
there is no toilet. I check a couple other restrooms and
find no toilets there either. This does not seem to bother
my co- workers at all.
commentary on 'domestic violence and toilets' by jay
96-01-24
In my resonate dream...
my unconscious is very active. an angry male aspect
attempts to arise from my unconscious into my
consciousness. i attempt to prevent him and other
rebellious parts of my unconscious from surfacing. i fail.
i am faced with unpleasant things from my past, when i was
just two years old. the anger comes from when i was two. i
feel my two year old self hasn't been well cared for,
either by others, or by myself. who slapped who? i lack
confidence in being able to verbalize this childhood issue.
after reentering my dream, i find that it may be related to
toilet training issues or that stage of life. if this were
my dream...
Jay
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Dream : "Huecos" by JJ ==== 960124
A man who lived close by had come to my friend Oscar's
apartment to recover some things he left on the window sill
when he'd lived there previously. They were decorative
painted pottery and they looked like what are pronounced
"huecos" (holes) but are old Incan pottery. These were
obviously not authentic huecos. But the man said that it
was gold paint on them, and he wanted them back. This was
a little upsetting, since firstly they were obviously lead
painted (one even had a brass top which could not be
mistaken for gold) and secondly, I didn't think Oscar
should have to give them up.
This had all taken place outside of the apartment, on a
patio of some kind where I noticed there was also a bike.
But as I looked closer, it was not a bike, but a
motorcycle, and it needed some work. In fact, the wheels
were not on it, and the wheels that were near did not have
inner tubes.
I sent Oscar upstairs to turn on the 4th floor lights, or
ask whoever was living there to turn them on, because I'd
accidentally put something on the 4th floor window sill
thinking it was his apartment, and now I needed it back.
Oscar ran upstairs and turned on the third floor lights
first, and then went up to the fourth floor. I couldn't
remember what it was I'd put on the window sill, though.
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At The Foot Of A Mountain by Kirk / 96-01-25
Here is a dream that I had about a week ago. I hope that
it inspires someone:
I was at the foot of a mountain, and I had heard that a
prophet was to speak at the top of the mountain. I saw him
standing by the road that led up the mountain, with a bear
on a leash. I started going up, but went slowly, because I
had a heavy backpack on. About halfway up, I looked at my
watch, and it was 6:29 am. I knew it was too late, that I
had to go and get my parents at the airport. There were
two men, who were discussing going down. They got on a bus,
and I followed. One of the men started driving, but I
realized he shouldn't be driving, that the real driver was
sitting in the back of the bus with other drives. I made a
sign to him, and he got up and went to the front of the
bus. He got the driver to stop, but with much struggle.
During the struggle, a girl with no legs fell off the seat
behind the driver. I got out of the bus and signaled to an
ambulance which had been following. I walked away toward a
crossroads to find another way.
Kirk/ France
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DREAM: Free Falling - Kittie B.( 960128).
I am with 2 other friends on a slight incline. We are
preparing to leave the area. I get into my car alone,
they are going to follow me in theirs. The area we are in
is some- what like an island, there is only two ways out;
on a narrow street leading around a large black glass
building - one path leading around on the left, the other
on the right side of the building. The only way to exit
this area is on one of those two pathways. The building
itself takes up the rest of the area and blocks any exit.
Both the area around the front of the building and the
entrances to the pathways are strewn with what appears to
be construction litter and large rocks and boulders. At
first it appears both exits are block by this debris. I
slowly approach the front of the building in my car and
examine both exits, which still appear blocked. As I head
straight toward the building (moving very slowly) and make
the decision to go to the right. As I do I notice the
right exit is actually clear but the entrance is hidden by
a boulder. I veer my car slowly to the right and head
towards the right exit road. As I begin the slow curve
around the building I see the way ahead is as strewn with
construction type debris as the front of the building. I
also notice that on the right side of the pathway is a
shear drop off. The pathway looks like it can be navigated
although it is extremely narrow. I proceed forward. As I
am moving my car it seems to pick up speed even though I am
not on a decline. I apply brakes lightly because I do not
want to loose control or I will go over the edge into the
drop off. As I advance it becomes clear I am too close to
the edge and I feel my right front wheel as it slips over
the edge and I know the car is going over. As the car is
free falling over the edge of the road I release my seat
belt and realize I am, in fact, in a convertible. As I
release my seat belt I become unattached to the car and it
"slips" from beneath me and I and the car are now falling
separately. The thought comes to me to look for something
to grab along the side of the cliff. I see the car hit the
bottom of the valley and explode into flames. I realize
that I will probably hit bottom but know, even if I am
injured slightly, I will be okay. At this point I
experience that incredible feeling of falling (like on the
downward run of a roller coaster) and have both feelings of
great exhilaration mixed with slight fear. This feeling is
not only in my dream but is real - I physically feel it in
my sleep. The next scene is me walking along with a man
telling him of this experience. I remember this very
clearly because I remember how I looked, it was as if I had
seen myself in a mirror, I had on a plaid skirt to my knee
caps, white blouse, brown hair approximately shoulder
length and slender but the facial features were not mine.
I was telling this man about this experience and then I
awoke. It is important to understand that the
exhilaration/fear of the sensation of free falling woke me
while I was experiencing it - this after image happened in
the split seconds between the sensation and the awakening.
I awoke with the feeling - that was a great sensation and
wouldn't it be something to do again.
Well - would love comments in whatever format is
appropriate.
Thanks for listening K
Falling dream commentary 960122 From: BobC
The beginning of the dream appears to indicate the dreamer
feels lonely. She is on an island (a symbol of isolation)
with friends, but they have separate cars. In trying to
get away from where she is (emotionally?) she has a big,
black building directly in front of her. This seems to
indicate an immovable obstacle. The dreamer must turn left
or right; that is, go back to the past (the known) or
gamble on the future. Both paths or options have obstacles
making the way difficult to negotiate, but the dreamer
chooses the right or future. Suddenly, the dreamer feels
things getting out of control. The car picks up speed
without her accelerating. She comes "too close to the
edge" and goes over the cliff (is the dreamer under a great
deal of stress in her conscious life)? She realizes the
car is a convertible and she can separate herself from it
by taking off her seat belt (i.e. she can by her own
actions change or separate herself from her current
situation or dilemma). Once she separates from the car she
is in free fall; she is free to experience the
exhilaration of the moment, but she also feels some fear.
She has no control over the outcome of the fall. She
doesn't know how her experience of freedom will end. She
has faith, however, that although she will "hit bottom" she
will be alright. The dreamer's walk with a male stranger
while she is wearing a plaid skirt may be indicative of her
confusion if she allows herself to "fall free." She will
change the way the world sees her; "the facial features
were not mine." Plaid is a "checkered" pattern, and a
person who has led a "checkered" life has experience many
changes of fortune. In summary, the dream seems to
indicate that the dreamer wants to be free from major
stress, wants change in her life, but fears loss of
control. Her dream mind seems to be telling her that if
she allows herself the experience of freedom there will not
be a single ending but rather many changes in her life. If
the dreamer disagrees with the above interpretation, then
it is wrong. Only the dreamer knows. Bob C
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Goetheanum" by Kenneth/ Tue 960123
My female companion and I are caught out in the ocean,
and we have to figure out how to swim across the current to
get back to the coast. We manage to make it past some
fishing lines; one fishhook momentarily snags my bathing
trunks.
We rest sitting on the benches by the cove. The woman
goes to look for a pay phone, but she doesn't find one. I
talk to a couple of cops, but they are not helpful indeed,
I've the distinct impression that they'd cite me for
sitting on the bench wrong.
We begin walking up the coast. We are in a place like
Pacific Grove where my grandparents lived, a place of many
happy childhood memories. We explore the levels of the
theater, a labyrinthine, curving place and another happy
place for a child, red and plush with many narrow steps and
passages. We work our way part way up counterclockwise.
Interpretation: At sea, level-headed, as with the
British couple in the recent Indonesian ferry sinking. I'm
not overanxious about minor snags after that!
The place is like the children's cove in La Jolla. We
can't reach help, and the civic order is of no help to us
either, and may even prove detrimental (if I don't show the
right poise, posture, etc.) [The phrase I'm looking for is
"proper deportment."]
The Goetheneum-like theater is uterine, vaginal,
vulval. We start at or near the bottom and complete a
partial chord walking up an anticlockwise spiral__ but the
place, the feeling-space, is much more complex and
involuted than that. There are a few old people in the
audience, waiting for the show to begin.
From a blue sea to a dark red, serpentine proscenium
Rudolf Steiner's Anthroposophy. Old New Age, but birth
nonetheless.
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"Little Green Apples" by Kenneth /Wed 960124
I check my e-mail at work and find to my surprise
77,777 messages! I decide to erase them sight unseen
(there'll always be more) but somehow manage to screw up
the computer's memory. Suddenly the store is full of
people and I am unable to swap back to Book Log! [I.e.,
the register program.]
I am fearful of causing more damage. The screen shows
a map as if on a transparent overlay running horizontally
and a floating pointer drifting back and forth which I
can't get centered; I don't want to erase the wrong
segment.
At one point the keyboard changes into little green
apples arranged in an egg carton, twelve of them, and I'm
pressing them.
Interpretation: I had the evening before tried from
work to check my e-mail, something I hadn't done in a long
while, but there was too much line noise. 77,777 is a
mystic number, or seemingly so; 7 is the number of the
end, eschatological. I was [later that night, at home]
deep in e-mail as some would be deep in their cups.
Erasing them all would be draconian, and that caused the
memory problem! [Ironic.] All or nothing.
Maps. Orientation. Turing's universal machine and
its tape. The stopping problem. You can't tell how or if
things will turn out; you need to run the process.
Why did God create Little green apples? [Old Bing Crosby
song] Eggs and apples, apples and eggs, Genesis and the
Babylonians. Immaturity? The knowledge of good and evil?
Magritte? Surreal, beginning things.
Also, Turing evidently committed suicide by biting
into a cyanide-laced apple. Shades of Snow White!
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==== Dream : "Scourge of my planet" by JJ
====== 960124
My manager had parked his van far from work, and I had
gone to move it. When I was in the van it was more like a
motor home, but it was a bit like an old person's motor
home, and it had pictures of old people on the wall. When
I was in one room of the motor home, I saw that it
overlooked a canal, much like the ones in Ft.Lauderdale.
The room had an opening that spanned the length of the wall
at its bottom. It was about two feet tall, so I sat on my
haunches to look out at the adjacent canal. It was then
that I saw a black man walking under water. I remembered
a radio bit I'd heard about people walking under water to
better surprise their mugging victims.
** I was somewhere in Harvard Square. A political
personage had organized a meeting of some kind, and I was
not sure I was in the right place. For one thing, it
seemed I was the first person from my organization to
arrive, and for another, it seemed like an independent
living group at Harvard. It had characteristics of my own
fraternity, and the people who lived there seemed to be
good friends.
As I was about to leave, the personage showed up. So did
Chris S., a brother from my fraternity, in crutches.
Everyone settled for the meeting to begin, and it began.
It was then that I learned the purpose of the meeting was
to introduce the brothers of the MIT chapter to those of
the Harvard chapter. But the Harvard "chapter" was not
really a chapter, they had banned fraternities in 1951.
What was left of my fraternity at Harvard was more of a
club.
Someone of significance in the Harvard organization began a
ritual. It was a very strange ritual and I thought it
suited the supercilious aura of the school very well.
Sitting at an end of a table, under lights, on my right (on
my left is my father) the person begins to smell brown
sugar out of a silver bowl. We are all watching. As he
inhales the vapor of the sugar, he smiles, then inhales
some more. I look at the sugar, and it is diminishing, but
in such a way that it might be burning. It even makes a
low volume sound.
As the man smiles and inhales more and more, people in the
room begin to chuckle. I am uncomfortable, but do not
interrupt the ritual.
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".009" by- Kenneth / Fri 960126
Sean Connery is back playing James Bond, only he's .009
this time around or some such. He's scarcely aged.
At the very beginning of the film, first scene, he's
getting the crap beaten out of him by two thugs in a
hallway, and then he's thrown into a room to recuperate.
I wonder how he is going to, as usual, escape.
There are two or three henchmen laying down in the
room. They're nude. One is a woman who is masturbating
the black man, who is in ecstasy. I'm astonished that
they're showing male genitals and erections on TV! This is
new Interpretation: The woman is betwixt the two men,
laying in a tableau. "Thug" comes from thugee, a devotee
of Kali... who cares about the sex lives of Ulysses's
crew? Yet here we have a /me'nage a` trois/, and
something approaching Jung's alchemical 3-into-four__ it's
extremely inimical at first. Hyper-masculine James Bond
is completed; 9 is as a friend says the number of
completion (though I'd thought it 7). (I'd recorded this
dream late; it might have been .008 as in the spy parody
"Our Man Flynt.")
Two black men, one indistinct; one white woman being
active; and one white man /hors de combat/.
... Interesting stuff, particulary since I am
attracted to the animus in women and since I've a strong
anima.
So much for bondage!
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I am in a jet black room which has a shape resembling
that of a display set up in a mall [ie.. the electronics
department). Within the room are columns which rise to
waist line and flatten out-hexagonal in shape. On each
column is an object of significance, as if the objects were
modern art in an art show. I don't seem to pay any
attention to any object in particular. The only other
presence is my father, who I know has been deceased for two
years.
He is holding one of the objects-a towel up to me and he
is showing me why it is important that it was designed
that way it was. The towel was also jet black, but
striped once red and once white on the far right side,
vertically,
but the red is on the outside and the white is in the
middle. He explains why the colors were done in that
manner :
1) jet black for simplicity
2) Red and black on the outside-white in the middle
for balance
3) more than one color for variety
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"The Stadium"
by John -------96-01-27 ---------------------
This dream takes place in an open stadium. I am usually
very shy when around people, but in this case I feel like
I am not nervous at all. Under the bleachers is a
corridor, with one opening leading to a small room. This
is where I go first in the dream. The small room is like a
classroom with small tables placed around it-like desks.
There are some stairs on the opposite side of where I come
in. The steps lead up to a room that I can't see very
clearly due to the fact that so many people are in there.
So I go back down the stairs and up to the bleachers, in
some inspecific form or fashion. In the bleachers I see a
cute female and try to go through the crowd to her, but
somehow she disappears. A moment or two later I decide to
go back to the room again. This time she is down there on
her way up the steps. So I follow her up the steps.
After going up the steps, I could not find her anywhere.
She had disappeared again. The room, I noticed, had less
people in it than before as if they had all gone into
another room, that I couldn't see and I was left out. I
walk out to the bleachers again. The bleachers begin to
take a specific shape now. They are elevated-including
the bottom steps-a long distance from the ground. Echos
of everyone's words drown the metal seats. It seems like
less of a stadium now and more like bleachers facing an
infinite amount of space. I follow the slant of the
bleachers down to the bottom where several clear plastic
tubes are. Some tubes go up. Some go forward, backward,
left and right. They are curvy and straight, closed and
open. Its like a "big kids playground". People are all
over the tubes flying through them and jumping down to
lower tubes. Now I begin to see that some of the tubes
are like elevators with doors. Everyone here is happy. I
am happy. I see the girl again, but she is in one of
the tubes. I see where I need to walk and fly through to
get to her and start going, but she keeps moving. Now
she's noticed I'm following her and she smiles. I smile
back. This chase continues on and on and when I am within
a few paces of her I wake up.
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Dream " Crystal at the Center of Time" by Carolyn /
(960128)
I dreamed that I was there at the beginning of time, or at
least at the beginning of human knowledge. I was in a
temple or in some sort of secluded place where all the
knowledge of humankind was being stockpiled. It looked
like a huge, shimmering crystal, rather like the crystal
walls of a cave. I was wearing a robe I'd selected from a
number of others. It was in rainbow colors and flowed
softly. I was aware of time passing me by somewhere in the
outside world. At times I was the guardian of this
knowledge and sometimes I was just an observer - rather
like watching a movie. Over time the crystal grew and
grew. It pushed back the land and the water and just grew.
There seemed to be a designated end time, an appropriate
time for the last bit of knowledge to be added, but it
wasn't time yet. Someone came and wanted to add this
last bit of knowledge, but it wasn't time yet. I tried to
stop him, but he added it anyway and the whole thing came
tumbling down. But all was not lost. It seemed that the
crystal mass could be rebuilt, but it would take an
awfully long time. The inappropriate addition was a
definite setback. The whole dream was very intense and
vivid. So what do you make of it? Carolyn
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==== Dreams: " Computer Dreams" by felinoid ===96-01-27 =
I have a very nasty habit of NOT properly documenting my
dreams (or not documenting them at all) I am asleep and
spend the first few minutes of the morning committing the
dream to conscious memory (or I'll forget it once I am
totally awake) then interpreting (being in the same state
and the same mind the dream came from.. so the symbols have
exactly one meaning... the one the dream intended... and I
find I can't come up with meanings NOT related to the
dream). A set of dreams that apparently were read by me
incorrectly... they follow a very blatant theme...
First... The Cartoons and the computer...
It begins with cartoons doing various things (as if they
were real) The first part I can remember clearly is this I
am the coyote (Wile E.. from loony toons... the version
that doesn't speak) I am setting a trap for the road runner
(knowing it will fail but not admitting it to myself) I
think I see the roadrunner with one catch.. he is behaving
like the Tazmanian Devil (Taz)... he passes by and I
finish my trap...
The dreamscape changes and now I am myself... I come
apone the trap and it's a monitor on a mound of dirt with a
computer system half buried... it seems someone placed it
there (no longer the trap it was) and I ask someone to help
me pull it out. I intend to ask the owner (who seems to
have just recently been given it or something.. he didn't
seem interested in it and now it seems he buried it in
dirt) if he wants his system or if I can have it (in real
life my own computer is almost worthless it's just a
terminal for Internet now... I have to replace some parts
to make it useful again). I am concerned the computer
isn't going to work after this treatment... I am wondering
if the monitor is a VGA or an old out of date CGA. The
computer seems to be sleek top of the line but I am not
shure.... The computer case is a full Tower case about
5 feet tall... white... Looks up to date.... feels almost
as if a desk top super computer. I begin lifting the
computer with help carefully.... it feels heavy but I work
carefully to make sure nothing gets hurt... The computers
owner looks out the window at me with a total lack of
concern he goes and sits down... I lift and I think I can
feal it moving free of the dirt that held it.... I wake up
then...
Second Dream. Computer in the snow....
I am in the snow... It has snowed bad. I walk up to a
door of people I know they have a computer sitting out in
the snow (I don't know why) I deliver a newspaper (I use to
be a newspaper carrier and customers would leave TIPS in
form of soda or cookies at the front door... I tended to
leave such tips alone unless a note was attached saying I
could take it) the friends open the door (a yellowish light
but no sight of who is inside) and tell me to take the
computer that it's a gift for me... and say "Merry
Christmas".
Third Dream (last night 1-25-96) The Apple 486 XT HU?
I keep a lot of computer parts for my computer in case
it shuts down... But my hard disk controller burned out and
I don't have a replacement.
I'm tinkering around and there is this motherboard
hanging from a cord. That doesn't seem right so I decide to
identify the board and put it in storage. There is
something in one of the slots so it seems so I pull it out
and it breaks... It turns out that wasn't a slot but
instead a long package of parts installed where a slot
should be... and I broke it. I think about reattaching the
parts but first I want to know what I am fixing. I look at
the CPU... It says 486... I think if I had know I had THIS
I'd be using it instead of a 386dx33.... now it's broken...
This can't be right I KNOW I don't have a 486 (and I don't)
I check again and it's a 386sx... That's my mothers
computer what is it doing here? Oh shit I broke my mothers
computer. The I check again... it's a 486 clone CPU that
fits in a 386 socket... I checked closely and SX is just a
lot number.... Then I notice the CPU slides to unlock from
the socket then comes out... and it's a sleek white chip..
bulky for a CPU but sleek and new... Then I look
carefully... It has the Apple Logo on it.
My interpretation of the first dream... Someone is going to
give me a computer for a present... Second... (Same as
first) for Christmas.... (First two happened before
Christmas... and since then I did NOT get a computer at
all... I did get a C programming book... so I figured that
was it.. I've since then FTPed a C compiler that's small
enough to fit on floppy disk). Third happened after the
first two and follows the theme...apparently I don't know
what they mean.
felinoid
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== Dream: "Champagne Wishes & Caviar Dreams" by MonkeyBoy
=960122=
About 3 or 4 kids (8-10 years old) and myself were on some
lake when we ran across a hole left by some ice fishermen.
Well, don't you know, one of the kids jumps in and wants to
go swimming. Of course he couldn't swim with skates on so
we pulled him out. Well, he thought it was fun. So while
the rest of us are shivering, trying to keep warm, he jumps
in again, only this time he goes under. We all panic
because we can't see him - one of the kids skates off for
help; the other one starts crying. I know by the time help
arrives the kid will be gone with the flow so I stick my
head in the icy water and see him floating about 3 feet
from the hole. I tried grabbing him which only made him
float further away.
By now I'm really in a panic, but I know what I have to do.
So I say a little prayer and dive in (skates and all)
knowing I might not find that hole again and grab the kid
who of course by this time is not breathing. Somehow I
found an air pocket under the ice. I can see the hole
about 8 feet away so I scratch my way under the ice with
one hand while dragging the kid with the other and treading
water with my skates on (a miracle in itself, I'm
thinking).
We make it back to the hole and I get the kid out and then
myself. No help has arrived yet so I start CPR. The kid
is a pretty color blue I think to myself. Kind of aqua,
but not a color I was familiar with. So I start CPR, over
and over, blowing into his mouth and his nose at the same
time. Finally the kid starts to puke out all of this
crushed ice. I keep breathing into him to melt the ice,
but it just keeps coming. He stops puking and opens his
eyes. His color is coming back and I can see help is on
the way. The kid looks up at me and exclaims, "That was
fun," and tries to crawl back into the hole.
I grab him by the legs just as the rescuers arrive. They
wrap us in blankets and give us hot chocolate to drink. We
talk about what happened and I tell them the story. They
said, "Oh, by the way, did you hear someone won the $87
million lottery? His name is J.K." I said, "My name is
J.K." They knew the name because we had to sign it when we
bought tickets. No one could believe it. It was truly a
miracle! (from their lips to God's ears)
Someone gave me a ride home, but I didn't have any keys to
open the door. "That's OK," I said, "because I have my
lottery ticket." I put my ticket in the slot and the door
unlocks with this loud 'CLICK', like a bank vault, I think.
I go inside knowing I won the lottery, elated, but too
exhausted to care after what I had just been through. I
fall asleep on grandma's love seat by my front door with
the grapevine wreath hanging behind it. I'm awakened by
this rustling noise coming from the wreath and I'm
frightened. I can see this black thing (in the 2 o'clock
position) moving in the wreath. It looks like a bat, about
the size of a basketball or a little larger. In a panic I
spring up from the love seat and look at it. I reach out
to touch it and it's eyes open. I gasp! It looks back at
me and stretches out it's arms to me. Why, it's not a bat,
I think. It's a monkey!!! And cute!
So I take it in my arms and cuddle it, talking to it,
asking it how it got there. It started to make this
gutteral sound that sounded like T.P. I keep repeating
aloud, T.P? "Do you have to go to the bathroom?" I say and
it nods yes. I take it to the bathroom. It stands above
the seat and takes a healthy dump. It starts to wipe
itself but is making a big mess, so I help. Yuck, I think
to myself. By this time I realize it understands me. Here
I've got monkey shit all over my hand, but had an itch so I
wiped my mouth. YUCK. Now I can taste monkey shit.
All of a sudden it starts talking. He told me he was
scared, but had to make sure he could trust me before he
started talking. Then he asked me where the baby was. I
said, "What baby?" He wasn't alone. We looked around and
found the baby in the ficas tree in the dining room. He
said his name was Emblem, but didn't know how old he was.
We could tell he was older because he had some gray tones,
but the baby was a baby, about a week or two old. Her name
was Sara. We found some dish towels to make into diapers
(again with the monkey shit).
We fed Sara and put her down for a nap and talked. Someone
was after them and had killed Sara's mother, so they were
on the lam. He made me promise I wouldn't turn them in to
the zoo people. I said I would help. I told him I'd try
to get hold of Michael Jackson because he was rich and
could protect them. Then he turned to me and said, "Well,
you're rich too. Why can't you keep us?" I said I would
and then I woke up. (960122)
Commentary on "Champagne Wishes and Caviar Dreams" by Bob C
(960202)
As the dream begins the dreamer is with a group of young
boys, one of which finds it enjoyable to jump into the
water through a hole in the ice. The second time the boy
does so he can't get out of the hole. The dreamer jumps
into the same hole, swims under the ice, manages to locate
the boy, and pulls him out. The boy appears lifeless, but
when the dreamer applies mouth to mouth resuscitation the
boy comes back to life and wants to jump into the hole
again. When the dreamer tells recently arrived rescuers
about the drowning incident, one of the rescuers tells him
indirectly that he won the $87.million dollar lottery. In
the dream wealth unlocks doors literally. The dreamer uses
his lottery ticket to unlock a door and falls onto a love
seat belonging to his grandmother. He notices a creature
that turns out to be a monkey above him. The dreamer next
involves himself in "monkey business." He takes the monkey
to the bathroom and becomes involved a the messy business
of cleaning up monkey feces. It is so messy the dreamer
even inadvertently eats some of the feces. The dreamer's
dream mind seems to be telling him that becoming involved
in "monkey business" obviously has unpleasant
consequences. The monkey then tells the dreamer his name
is "Emblem" (obviously implying that he is a symbol in the
dream) and leading the dreamer to a real female baby named
Sara. The monkey says the baby's mother was killed, and he
is trying to keep the baby safe. He is trusting the
dreamer not to call the zookeeper (the authorities). The
dreamer suggests calling Michael Jackson for help because
Jackson was rich, and the monkey responded that the dreamer
was rich too and could help (keep him and the baby
together). The dreamer agrees to do so and wakes up. There
seems to be a sexual connotation to many of the symbols in
this dream. The boy going in and out of the hole (and the
dreamer following him) is one such symbol. The dreamer
giving mouth to mouth resuscitation to the boy until he
revives is another. "Monkey business," "monkeying around"
and "monkey with" often have pejorative sexual
connotations. At this point the dream mind seems to
editorialize, pointing out that if some desires, even
desires camouflaged in the guise of "helping" someone
relieve themselves can get pretty messy, and leave a lousy
taste in one's mouth. The baby Sara is obviously female,
and also very vulnerable. The monkey wants to take care of
the baby. The dreamer suggests the monkey contact Michael
Jackson, another sexual symbol given the recent publicity
into Jackson's alleged sexual proclivities toward children.
The monkey responds in words to the effect that the dreamer
can be a substitute for Michael Jackson. It is possible
the dream symbolizes the dreamer's attraction toward same
sex children. In the dream the attraction is camouflaged
in several ways. He saves the young boy's life by going
into "the hole" to rescue him and by using resuscitation to
revive the boy (symbolic kissing)? The monkey may be
symbolic of the dreamer's repressed homosexual attraction;
He "helps" the monkey in the bathroom by trying to wipe the
monkey's anus, but the situation quickly turns, well,
shitty. The monkey then leads him to a vulnerable baby who
needs help. (Who or what is vulnerable in the dreamer's
conscious life)? The dreamer's idea of a helper for the
baby is Michael Jackson, an entertainer alleged to molested
children. The monkey tells the dreamer in effect that the
dreamer can be his own Michael Jackson, and the dreamer
agrees. The fact that the dreamer remembered this dream is
such detail may mean that the dreamer's repressive
processes are breaking down. If the dreamer disagrees
with the above interpretation, then it is wrong. Only the
dreamer knows.
Bob C.
commentary on 'champagne wishes & caviar dreams' by jay
(960202)
if this were my dream...
it gives me a very good feeling, as we will see.
a young part of myself seems to enjoy diving down into the
realms of the unconscious. he really enjoys it. but it
does seem to freeze him up. when i retrieve him and warm
him up, he wants to dive right back in again. i become
very rich as a result of my efforts in dealing with the
effects of this diving down deep.
this new wealth or power gives me the ability to unlock
inner parts of myself where i discover another mysterious
bat/monkey aspect of myself. it reaches out to me and i
embrace and nurture it. when its messiness surfaces, and i
continue to deal with it rather than rejecting it, a bond
of trust is formed and we are able to communicate with each
other.
in fact, i discover i have two monkey parts, an older male
part and a younger female aspect which i also nurture. i
realize that my new wealth will allow me to keep and
nurture these newly discovered parts of myself.
this dream has a very positive feel for me. thanks to the
dreamer for sharing it with us.
Jay
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Commentary on 'champagne wishes & caviar dreams' by Bill
(960229)
If this were my dream.
In my dream I am in a dangerously cold place and able to
let out some really playful parts of myself. One part is
completely fearless and can leap beneath the surface of
things into the cold depths without self concern. I will
sacrifice just about anything to save this youngster, and
do save him. Later I encounter more youthful aspects of
myself and again get into the shit that comes from
interacting with new things. Finding these new things is
like winning the lottery and finding the riches in those
parts of myself, the kid who fearlessly dives into the cold
depths, the animal self that is such a delight, and the
lotto resources I have to make this all so.
Thanks for the(real) winning lotto number - Bill
(These dreams form a tryptich. -Kenneth)
"Nostalgia House" Thu (960201)
I am in a large rambling house which is a time traveling
house. Currently I am in the mid-70s section. I take off
my clothes, planning to frolic in the bath tub with my
girlfriend, but she doesn't arrive. I momentarily put one
of my hearing aid batteries in my mouth and then put my
two hearing aids on a safe place on the shelf.
"History Tour"
I am taking a guided tour of a historical building. We're
in the basement or by the loading dock -lots of white
concrete, long hallways. A wire mesh gate separates us
from the outside. It's painted red. The tour guide says
yeah, they have problems with transients, but they seem to
exchange some civil words with some of them (whom we don't
see). Then we're in a group as for a casting call.
"Pool"
I am playing pool with some people; I compliment one woman
on her sharp nice dress.
Later there's an accident investigation on our TV show (?);
a big rig has jackknifed over a dirt embankment. As it's
towed away, much hinges on my asking my female partner how
she came by her estimate of how many inches the truck had
crumpled. It's like a Banachek mystery.
Interpretation (Fri 3 Feb): Interesting sequence. I'm
still not being laid, then I visit the past in a group,
and then a retro-reaction to mid-70s feminism. What was
that actress's name, the brunette who played the outfoxed
foil to George Peppard's character? The Banacheck
mysteries often relied on the insured object not being
stolen at the putative time and/or time. I.e., the hidden
mystery was solved, not the ostensible one.
A mansion in which one time travels; space becomes time, as
in Wagner's _Parsifal_. ("My son, thou seest/Here Space
and Time are one.") Chronic cohorts. The lies of the
'70s (casual sex was something I'd only read about). So,
I'm stood up even in fantasy... Hearing battery as in the
Host? Eucharist symbolism under my tongue, hot tub as
failed alchemical retort or alembic... where's the wine,
the sacramental wine, the blood of the host of the
mansion? His mansion does have many rooms!
The history tour doesn't really resonate for me, though it
seems a necessary connecting piece. Behind the scenes, or
under them, in the works. An understanding with the
homeless despite the rhetoric. On with the show.
From pool to pool. Back on the dating scene. Sharp, nice
dress, compliments.
Nostalgia history pool.
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Playwright -by Kenneth / 96-02-12
My play which is based on "How to Succeed in Business
Without Really Trying" is well received. I'm complimented
afterwards on my success.
Interpretation: Hah! Work enables... what? Status?
Security? Love? I'm sick of magazines' and television's
noise. Neither medium addresses my life, and corporate
anything is not for me. Confessions of a crap artist.
So_ success through derivative satire??!
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Recycled Youth - by Kenneth /Sun 960204
I am with a bunch of kids, teenagers, exploring the
carnival grounds after closing, this in Boise, Idaho. It
is night. We whoop it up on the hills and mounds of
discarded aluminum beer cans and try to calculate how much
money we'd have if we could take them home and recycle
them.
Interpretation: The young all-male adult band of primates
dreaming dreams on the dregs of carnival. We're not even
drunk, but many many others have had their fill.
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Eastern Fun - by Kenneth / Sun 960204
I am in the German army on the Eastern front. There is a
great concern about getting our tanks moved up a canal.
It is night, and there are nightclubs in the woods beyond
the embankment. Years from now we'll look back on this
exercise with a sort of nostalgia.
Interpretation: The circulation of water impresses me as
being important, and Nietzsche has a line somewhere about
pleasure wanting eternity,... deep, deep eternity! The
Germans come of my looking up Otto Strasser, he of the
socialist wing of the NSDAP, in several indexes, as well
as looking for Hitler's supposed visitation by a glowing
being of whom he was afraid. Occult, nihilistic action;
mindless frenzy; and behind the lines, nightclubs, R&R,
water of libido if not of love ("tank" was a code-name).
This is in a sense a continuation of "Lithuanian Monk,"
since there's an eastern movement and, for that matter,
the Lithuanians had a Medieval empire.
Rear Echelon Motherfuckers (and Rapid Eye Movement); war
ahead and support troops behind having a good time.... but
the land swallows them up.
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Prozac - by Kenneth / Sun (960210)
I go into a psychiatrist's office and on my hands and knees
look up at the undersides of the three tables, not for
bugs but for something else. She comes in, an angular,
middle-aged redhead with a short haircut, and instead of
referring me to her receptionist we go out to the receiving
room. She inspects my eyes, lowering my eyelids, and asks
me if I get high from Prozac. When I tell her no, she
gives me a prescription for Prozac and (to my surprise)
makes an appointment for next week at 10:48 p.m
. The prescription costs more than $80 a week, which I'll
just be able to afford.
Interpretation: Necessary regression: a place to start.
The psychiatrist may derive from my first-cousin,
once-removed, a redhead. Prozac gives many people a
speedy feeling similar to that of LSD just as it kicks in
but before the hallucinations begin. Her question is
physiological, not implied-accusatory. -"Does so-and-so
have such-and-such an effect on you?" was the thrust of
the question.
From being a baby to just being able to afford therapy.
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Ringworld - by Kenneth / (960210)
A man is stuck upside-down high up in an amusement park
ride. I wonder what it would be like to be him. I wonder
what it would be like to be riding the rides in a business
suit. I rearrange the metal arms so I can sleep
upside-down without fear of falling through.
The campus breaks up into sexual groupings. I have to cut
through the lesbians' room quickly, where I am not
welcome. My female companion and I have been discussing
one of Larry Niven's books with great intensity. I tell
her I've read it three times and I settle down on the couch
which is strewn with outdated millennial prophecy books to
finish it up again.
Interpretation: I almost didn't record this, tired of
rehashing any business involving lesbians and my long
aftermath of [X's] coming out of the closet, but this
dream's telling a great and necessary story.
The Ferris wheel is the wheel of life, samsara, dharma,
whatever. I incarnate myself onto it. A business suit
means work, dharma, specificity, at work-play at life's
carnival. I don't actually wear a business suit, however.
An archetypal figure: the Fool, high up and upside-down:
too much vertical. I am stuck here; I wait it out,
guarding against a catastrophic fall.
A segue into sexual politics. UCSC was thick with leftist
feminism and lesbianism (but if everything personal is
political, nothing is personal. Thank God for Camille
Pagalia _a terrific antidote). Campus ---> hippocampus,
seat of? F.C. again -my initials reversed? Hmmm... I've
the good sense to cut through the lesbians' room quickly;
it's not my space, though on a psychic level I'm sweetly
envious of their hermetic closeness.
Niven's science fiction novel is _Ringworld_. Another
wheel "Larger than Worlds," this one seen as being
oriented horizontally. Mandala elements. Thrice, four
times. 3:4, Maria's axiom.
Outdated, end-of-the-world prophecies. Ringworld's
civilizations' decline and fall and rise, round and round
she goes, where she stops nobaddy knows. Joyce.
Centaur/Puppeteer Nessus... now there's an intriguing
animal! Learned and violent as a race, Nessus's shirt
killed Hercules (who had subdued Amazons).
An intense discussion indeed!
More: Feris-wolf, Ferris wheel; carnivore, carnival.
Wedding ring, Ringworld.
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headless by Vittorio 960213
Editors, I found your "Electric Dreams" in a local BBS. In
Volume 3 Issue 1 (25 January 1996), you published the
dream "Have I Lost my Head?" by Blair. Just the night
before I read that, I had a nightmare of similar things!
Feel free to publish or not to publish it and to correct my
English. HEADLESS DREAM (9 March 1996) I was in the
backyard of the villa where I lived until I was 12 (now I'm
23). SOMETHING (I can't remember that, but it was something
slim, with sharp teeth or beak) tears my head away. I have
no more eyes nor brain, so some way it takes me years to
find my head in the backyard. When I find it, it's coated
with a hard strata of earth. I break that shell, but it's
too late: my head has become mummified. The face skin keeps
stuck to that earth envelope, so my head is without eyes,
lips, teeth, nose. That's just a mask, without any
expression, just like this emoticon: (: |) Its color is
dark blue. I stick it again on my body, but I know that I
just can't walk away with such a face. So I keep in my
childhood's backyard, waiting.
My self-commentary is quite trivial: I had fallen in love
with a girl much more intelligent than me, but she was
only playing with me (my head is torn away). I spent an
year devoting only to study, but without any growth, any
project for my future (the headless years). Because the
stress, I developed a slipped disk, which made me unable to
walk for a month, and I had to undergo an operation. The
physical pain made me forget my "forgotten love", but now
I can't run, jump etc.... Greetings for your interesting
Zine!
I am Vittorio Barabino via Pola 29 00198 Roma (Italy)
vb071581@lgc-net.luiss.it
Vittorio.Barabino@nwo.bbs.comune.roma.it
commentary on 'headless dream' by jay 960214
if this were my dream...
it makes me want to leave my yard anyhow and let everyone
see my blue head, as unappealing as it is, or, construct a
new head for my body, one with warm colors and expressive
features.
if this were my dream...
Jay
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'dreaming of dreaming' by jay 2/9/96
i am watching a performance on a stage. the performer is
an older happy/sad looking man. he is standing on a step
ladder. he is holding a sheaf of big sheets of white
paper. he swings his hands in a great arc over his head
releasing the sheets of paper in an overlapping sequence so
as to form a large arch of paper suspended in the air over
the greater part of the stage. the effect is similar to
the effect i have seen where dancers swing poles with long
streaming cloth banners attached to them to create
beautiful yet insubstantial patterns in the air.
next, i am observing, through some sort of vaguely sensed,
partially obstructing barrier, an open, somewhat dimly lit,
perhaps grassy area, roughly the size of a room, with a
raised (a foot or two high) perimeter around it. arranged
along this raised perimeter, there are some rough wooden
painted model houses. i am thinking or voicing derisive
and disparaging comments about some of the houses, perhaps
on the right, dreamed of by someone else. or perhaps their
house was in the center, though i don't remember seeing any
in the center. i feel that some of the houses on the left
which i dreamed up, are much better, more detailed,
elaborate, creative.
then i am working with a women from work in a large darkly
lit kitchen sort of room. we are standing at a long
counter that runs along one wall. she is to my right. it
feels comfortable and friendly and relaxed. i am cutting
up some large pale raw vegetable, like large stalks of
celery or bok choy. i am cutting off the old brown parts.
the woman says something which i don't hear at first. then
i understand that she is telling me that she had the same
house dream that i just had. i tell her that i had it also
and that she is the person i was putting down in that dream
segment.
Jay
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The Little Man in the Boat - by Kenneth / 960214 - St.
Valentine's Day
I walk past a series of bars and go into one almost at
random. It is night. There are a few people there; I'm
there to meet people, but instead go out and lay on my
back on the stone quay or baybreak to look up at the sky,
and I remember that this is the last bar on the street,
indeed the last building. The two security guards from the
Ralphs shopping center gently roust me. It takes me a
long while to get up and going again.
I am in a boat's pilot house in [my boss's] neighborhood
calling him on the phone about my work schedule. The sea
is high beyond the window. The water rises up the window
and then comes over the transom; the boat capsizes! I
worry that my hearing aids will get wet.
I am sliding down a vertical line of some sort through grey
chaos hand over hand looking down over my right shoulder.
I am quite safe doing this for the time being, but if I go
down too far I'll pass a point of no return, things become
more chaotic the further down I go. Grey angular shapes
whirl about.
I am in another bar, this time working out a scheduling
slip for payment. People know me and I know them.
Interpretation: An interesting sequence: bar-boat-bar.
It's no accident that what I thought I'd chosen at random
is the end of the line, that in fact I don't belong and
can't mingle, not at that stage. I lay down supine on the
breakwater, eyes on the sky. Tran and that older woman get
me moving again; my recovery is slow and protracted, moving
slowly away from unconsciousness. The breakwater's rocks
are grey angular shapes, a nice bit of foreshadowing.
Last New Year's Eve I was thoroughly and embarrassingly
lost in dense fog after dinner with my boss and his
family. Here yet again I am at sea. "The little man in
the boat" is a description of the clitoris; orgasms can be
oceanic (overflowing) and even masturbatory fantasies.
Despite being overwhelmed I feel no fear, no panic. You
can't stop the inevitable, and in any case something shall
happen. Identifying myself with a clitoris metaphor, for
example. Over identification with my feminine aspect?
Then I'm going down (another sexual meat... metaphor) a
vertical line deep into but not too deep into chaos,
taking care and looking down -a nice switch from look up
apathetically at the grey sky. I am in dangerous
circumstances but I am in control, on the /qui vive/; I am
being very, very careful. My impression is that the chaos
whirls counterclockwise.
Then I'm in a place like the Greenhouse taking care of
business.
Specie. Species. Money and reproduction; work and love;
rocks and water.
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>The Stand In< by Marilyn 960131
<A LITTLE BACKGROUND:
In awake life, I am a male. ...I am currently SEEKING a
full-time job.
I am also overwhelmed and feel and think I have too much to
do in my life. I want to have less and less and less. To
simplify. To pare down. To live a simple, spiritual life.
I asked my dream center: What do I need to know or what
needs to shift for me in order for me to simplify, not feel
overwhelmed, and yet balance my MANY interests....I even
asked the dream center to give me the message in simple
form. Ha Ha ).
The following is the first dream I had after incubating: >
>>I am a "stand in" for Marilyn Monroe. I am standing,
face away from the camera, standing sexy. I think that
there are some [on the set] that are envious of me.<<
"If this were your dream"............. What would you
think?
Suggestion: Before you read the following list of [my]
associations with the dream images, respond to the dream.
Then, if you wish, come back, read my associations and see
if that changes any of your comments:
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High profile Substitute Temporary
Glamorous Replacement Pretty Not
the real thing Blonde Drag queens
Honored Sexy Anima Elvis
Shadow Dead (....both of them)
"Maaaarrrrrrryyyyy!" (To be said to the tune of a whine)
Breasts (big breast) (...when I have played the role of a
woman, I loved having big breasts!) ;)
Hollywood (I want to leave all that I have here and move
to Hollywood and be a stand in or light person [I've been
told that's a person who sits under the lights all day for
the "real actors" and steps out at the last moment only for
the real actor to step in with the lights all set for
them]......I want to explore an untapped part of myself
(shadow) and break into acting and television)
Woman in the Red Dress (standing over the grate, wind
flowing up her dress)
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK :)
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"Emotional vortex" by lotus / > >Dream series 93xxxx to
94xxxx approximately
DREAMS: > I am sucked from the feet by a powerful energy
source, tornado like. Frightened, I say the chant my
mother taught me, "nam mo a di da phat" like crazy. It
stops. One time, it simply shakes my body. It stops.
Gaining self confidence, I got cocky, when it happened
again, I was rude. It didn't stop. But when I say
politely "please leave me", it stops. No more recurrence
since.
POST-DREAM NOTE: > This kind of dreams occurred at the
frequency of a few months apart over the span of couple of
years. It occurred at home as well as at the hospital
where I napped during breaks from work. One time I barely
lied down after shutting off the light that it happened.
I used to wonder what kind of energy/entity that was,
whether it was good or bad. Whatever it was, it taught me
a valuable lesson about emotions. If I contain my
emotions, be it fear or disdain, through prayer, or action,
I am free. This idea is applicable in other areas of my
waking life as well.
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Journal Vol 3 1 (2 of 2) 1/2
Feedback by lotus to Blair's "Telling the Truth" (95022